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::::This is indeed the talk section, and I'm just asking questions. You've stated in a section titled "Historical Accuracy" that these things are factual, so I'm inquiring as to where you've gotten your info. If these things are just opinion, then it seems that you should frame it as such. Numbers should have backing, and labeling people as bigots can be offensive....So I'm simply asking where you've gotten your info. [[User:Milladrive|milladrive]] ([[User talk:Milladrive|talk]]) 00:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::Didn't know numbers needed to be cited in a talk section. I don't know it's 95, I'm just making that conclusion. I didn't put into the article. And the Nordic part was my opinion, based on observation, and Ireland's history, which I had no intention of putting in the article. I'm also very familiar of the three main gangsters and their history. I know of the history of their involvement with the Luchesse crime family if I'm not mistaken. [[User:RobertFL1991|RobertFL1991]] ([[User talk:RobertFL1991|talk]]) 00:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::I'd really like to hear how you're familiar with them and their involvement. Are you related? A friend?
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::::::Regardless, you did post "95%" in the article, which I had to amend to a more accurate wording, so now saying that it's just your opinion is disingenuous. And you seem quite defensive here when I'm merely questioning your words, none of which were originally framed as opinion.
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::::::You seem like a good person, and I've been trying to help your contributions, for which Wikipedia is always grateful. Yes, posting in the articles need to be factual and hopefully sourced. But even when we post in the Talk sections, which are also public, our words are subject to inquiry....which is what I've been doing. You've positioned yourself as an authority on the subject, then have gotten defensive when questioned. What should anyone think? [[User:Milladrive|milladrive]] ([[User talk:Milladrive|talk]]) 01:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I never said I was an authority on the subject, man. I just know the story from what I've read in books and articles and long research that I do (because I research a lot). I just know who Paul Vario and Jimmy Burke are and have read history. I know the story outside of the movie because of that, plus I saw then Henry Hill documentary (I love watching documentaries).[[User:RobertFL1991|RobertFL1991]] ([[User talk:RobertFL1991|talk]])
::::::Also I never meant to say 95 like it factual. I judged that by comparing the movie with the research I did. Henry Hill said something along those lines, I'm just mostly going after what he said. It wasn't serious. [[User:RobertFL1991|RobertFL1991]] ([[User talk:RobertFL1991|talk]]) 01:36, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
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::It's worth considering the guideline at [[MOS:PUFFERY]]. Like for example, with ''The Power of the Dog'', I put that Metacritic reported how many top-ten lists listed that film. [[User:Erik|Erik]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Erik|talk]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) <sup>([[Template:Reply to|ping me]])</sup> 14:16, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
:This isn't going to be helpful, but I should note the movie got major accolades, and probably did have AFL listings, on greatest for certain categories, likely of Best Picture, on any ranking, but don't quote me on that. [[User:RobertFL1991|RobertFL1991]] ([[User talk:RobertFL1991|talk]]) 01:04, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
:Also the movie missed out for Best Picture to [[Dances with Wolves]], but not by much. But there is evidence it might have gotten snubbed. Maybe anti-Italian bigotry or something, I don't know. Or maybe because the Oscar establishment seems to favor Columbia Pictures and Paramount and, to a lesser extent, 20th Century Fox. To be fair though, [[Orion Pictures|Orion]] won big in 1990 and 1991 with that movie and [[Silence of the Lambs (film)|Silence of the Lambs]] respectively. But that seems to be the exception rather than the rule. Or maybe they just thought it was a crass movie. [[User:RobertFL1991|RobertFL1991]] ([[User talk:RobertFL1991|talk]]) 01:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
::What is the evidence that it got snubbed by "anti-Italian bigotry or something"? I realize that you say that you don't know for certain, but then why raise the argument, especially claiming to have evidence?
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::I'm just looking to have a discussion on it. What is the evidence? [[User:Milladrive|milladrive]] ([[User talk:Milladrive|talk]]) 02:33, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
::P.S. I also happen to think that GoodFellas is one of the greatest films of all time. [[User:Milladrive|milladrive]] ([[User talk:Milladrive|talk]]) 02:54, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
:::Me too.
:::It's my favorite, although in the last 10 years, the ''John Wick'' movies have tied it. [[User:RobertFL1991|RobertFL1991]] ([[User talk:RobertFL1991|talk]]) 02:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
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