Talk:Goodfellas
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Historical accuracy?
This article could use a section comparing the film’s account of events to what actually happened during the lives of the people depicted in the film.Morganfitzp(talk)04:17, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
- That would beWP:ORandWP:SYNTH.There are other websites that allow that kind of thing.MarnetteD|Talk04:57, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
- Such a thing would be better suited for the reception section anyway, as actually reliably sourced (not original research and/or synthesis of sources) comparisons could be used with other critical responses.Kirbanzo(userpage-talk-contribs)17:00, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- I sort of added a few notes on that yesterday with some sources.
- For instance, Jimmy Burke wasn't even truly Irish. He was more Scandinavian. There are many "Irish" who are really of Danish (given Denmark's history in Ireland, via the Vikings) or Spaniard (given the Spanish Armada) who are Nordic, and most of the racists who are "Irish" tend to be them. Burke falls under that category.
- Also Henry Hill wasn't exactly reputable for telling the truth either. So he wasn't reliable. While 95% of the things in the movie did happen, he could have made up certain things. There's no evidence suggesting an associated named Spider was killed. Paul Vario wasn't mean but he wasn't exactly the warm figure Henry shows in this movie either (although Burke was far more mean than Paul was)RobertFL1991(talk)22:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Mike Starr as Frenchy
The year afterGoodFellascame out,Mike Starrreprised his role as Frenchy in the television filmThe 10 Million Dollar Getaway,depicting the raid of the Lufthansa vault from the middle of the film.@Vaselineeeeeeee:I believe this is worth mentioning in the article.2001:BB6:5241:C900:8086:42F9:494A:BE01(talk)17:37, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
- The source you provided doesn't seem to be areliable one—more of an opinion piece as it does not substantively say it has any relation toGoodfellas.Unless a reliable source can show a concrete relationship to this film other than that it involves the same heist and a minor character from this film, I do not think it belongs in this article, let alone the lead.Vaselineeeeeeee★★★18:04, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
- Vaseline is correct on this one. Just because Mike Starr happens to play Frenchy on theThe 10 Million Dollar Getaway,doesn't makeGoodFellasrelated to that movie. They were two separate projects, unless the director ofMillion Dollar Getawaycomes out and says otherwise. In factNew Jack Cityis likely related toGoodFellas,"give someWBsimilarities in casting and producers and certain overlapping storylines.RobertFL1991(talk)06:39, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
One of the "greatest films of all time"?
This article's introduction states that "Goodfellasis widely regarded as one of the greatest films ever made, particularly in the gangster genre. "
Regarded as one of the greatest films ever by whom? There's no citation for this, other than pointing out it's preserved by the National Film Registry—but as of 2020, there are 800 films on that Registry, so it's hardly a specific indicator of the greatest films ever made.
If we're going to sayGoodfellasis one of the greatest gangster or crime movies, I'd understand that, but it seems like a stretch to say it's one of greatest ever, from any genre.Goodfellasis not onSight and Sound's list of top 100 films ever,[1]which is usually the definitive list.
Deadseaweed(talk)00:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- I found some stuff that might strengthen the statement's weight (The Independent,[2]Hollywood Reported,[3]Empire Online,[4]Manchester Evening News,[5]TimeOut,[6]Stacker[7]). I believe you can find many other sources stating the same thing. --► Sincerely:Solavirum13:31, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- It's worth considering the guideline atMOS:PUFFERY.Like for example, withThe Power of the Dog,I put that Metacritic reported how many top-ten lists listed that film.Erik(talk|contrib)(ping me)14:16, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^https://www2.bfi.org.uk/greatest-films-all-time
- ^https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/goodfellas-30th-anniversary-martin-scorsese-robert-de-niro-joe-pesci-gangster-film-b465779.html
- ^https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/100-best-films-ever-hollywood-favorites-818512/goodfellas/
- ^https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/best-movies-2/
- ^https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/goodfellas-voted-best-film---1088883
- ^https://www.timeout.com/film/best-movies-of-all-time
- ^https://stacker.com/stories/1587/100-best-movies-all-time
The movie does have a musical score, although briefly.
During the scene when Henry Hill is finally busted by the police in Eastern Long Island, just before his bust, Karen and him are making an escape, and a loud action-packed drum theme plays. That can't be a song I think. That's a score. Anyone know who did that? Thanks in advance.RobertFL1991(talk)06:37, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Regarding citation for source #80 which I added yesterday
My apologies, but I got that from a site which is a subscription site. But if you type throughout you can see that the real Thomas DeSimone was indeed taller.RobertFL1991(talk)22:09, 16 June 2024 (UTC)