Talk:Mrs. Doubtfire

References to use

Please add to the list references that can be used for the film article.

• Bruzzi, Stella (1997). "The Comedy of Cross-Dressing:Glen or Glenda,Mrs. Doubtfire,The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert".Undressing Cinema: Clothing and identity in the Movies.Routledge. pp. 147–172.ISBN978-0-415-13956-4.
• Harrower, Julie (1995). "The Dubious Nature ofMrs Doubtfire— Yet Another Case of Mal de Mere? ".Feminism & Psychology.5(3): 419–425.doi:10.1177/0959353595053022.{{cite journal}}:Unknown parameter|month=ignored (help)
• Lukk, Tiu (1997). "Coming Attractions – Creating the Trailer:True Lies,Star Trek Generations,Sleepless in Seattle,Mrs. Doubtfire,French Kiss".Movie Marketing: Opening the Picture and Giving It Legs.Silman–James Press.ISBN978-1-879505-38-4.
• Odden, Karen M. (2007). "Re-visioning the 'Vision from a Fairer World Than His': Women, Creativity, and Work inEast LynneandMrs. Doubtfire".In Hoeveler, Diane Long; Schuster, Donna Decker (eds.).Women's Literary Creativity and the Female Body.Palgrave Macmillan. pp. 121–144.ISBN978-1-4039-8383-1.

MergeMrs. Doubtfire 2

While it is interesting for fans of the original film to discover that there may be a sequel someday, the project forMrs. Doubtfire 2has been indefinitely stalled. Until such time as the movie goes intoproduction,it is suggested that the article for the second movie be merged here (as it is currently only apossibility). --TheTriumvir21:07, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Needs Rewrite

the book is great-- especially the line "It might have been a better book for children if it had been told entirely from a child's point of view." Really? Says who? If critical commentary on the book elicited such a response, cite it.

In general, the tone of the book section is entirely different from the rest of the article. Its placement is also questionable -- it is sandwhiched between information about the movie. Finally, while pointing out differences between the original work and the derivative movie makes sense, do we need a lengthy summary as presently exists?

Like I said -- this needs some work.

--The whole article is horrible. For some reason, it's very biased towards Robin Williams character, goes off on long riffs about how evil the Sally Field part is for wearing trousers.—Precedingunsignedcomment added by86.153.159.163(talk)07:54, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

"Common British View" Statement

The second sentence from theAccentsection:

The character Mrs Doubtfire claims to be from England in the movie, but she speaks with a mostly Scottish accent throughout the film. This may have furthered a common British view that most Americans have little knowledge of British (or Scottish and English at least) geography or culture.

I think very few people will disagree with me in saying that this statement (which is uncited, to begin with) serves no purpose other than to ruffle feathers and needs to be taken out. As such, I've removed it from the article. toki05:09, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, Mrs Doubtfires accent is NOT Scottish. It is a Northern English accent, from Newcastle. Something that is plainly obvious to any resident of Great Britain. As a resident of the United Kingdom I can confidentially tell you that her accent is Scottish and certainly not from Newcastle (Geordie) / Durham county area.— Precedingunsignedcomment added by73.157.8.123(talk)02:38, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Not only that but it is stated in the film that Mrs. Doubtfire's accent is "mottled".—The precedingunsignedcomment was added by74.129.20.113(talk)04:53, 11 April 2007 (UTC).

Actually, the word used was "muddled" which fits better in terms of talking about someone's accent, even though "mottled" works better for the retort about the tan. I think the writers themselves (or Williams if it was an ad-lib) confused the meanings of those two words when writing that joke.MaxVolume(talk)06:36, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

"British" would solve this once and for all.EauZenCashHaveIt(I'm All Ears)18:47, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

I think so. It does sound to me like Northern English counties, but could be other. As the character is from England, British seems like a good compromise, or Northern=British?Halbared(talk)23:28, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Book content

The film is based on the bookAlias Madame Doubtfireby renowned British children's authorAnne Fine.

Daniel Hilliard’s ex wife, Miranda, will not let him see enough of his three children. Their relationship is thoroughly destroyed. His creative idea, because he is an out of work actor, is to impersonate a woman and get himself hired.

Daniel is funny, timid with Miranda, who is a director of a large store, jealous of successful actors and, he comes to understand, selfishly irresponsible. He is a sensitive father but was not as sensitive a husband.

As Madame Doubtfire, he is a giant of a woman with a turban on the head, kilos of makeup on the face, lacquered nails and a strange masculine voice and masculine behaviour. When his ex wife is not around he is content to smoke, scratch a hairy leg and watch the children clean the house for him.

The children - Lydia and Chris are rebellious but Natalie, the youngest, is adorable. Lydia is mainly amused that Madame Doubtfire is in her home, Chris is mainly anxious, and Natalie resolves her confusion by regarding Madame Doubtfire and her father as separate people.

Their mother, when we first hear about her, is bad and sending a heartless message to her son when the cat kills his hamsters. It is later revealed how troubled her marriage was, how exhausting her work is and how hard it is to be a single parent. She also is not very clever, or Daniel's masquerade would not have been so long. But two of the children knew who she was - the new housekeeper shares Daniel's passion for gardening and his touch with meatloaf. She has the same name, how one of the children remembers, as a character Daniel once played.

The story is told by more points of view of, also from the youngsters. The narration shifts almost from paragraph to paragraph. The reader is sometimes told what different characters are thinking - but much more comes from Daniel's point of view than anyone else's.

In the end, after Miranda has discovered Daniel's deception and there has been one more terrible fight, the parents, chastised by the children, share a tender moment in which both admit mistakes and arrangements are made for Daniel to see the children more.

I have removed this poorly written section which talks too much about the book (which is not the film which is being discussed). A limited discussion of the book in context of the film is fine but this is more of a list with no integration.grenグレン02:31, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

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Reference

The title of Daniel's TV show, "Aunt Euphegenia's House",is not referenced by so in the movie. Would someone please find a source and cite it? Or did someone just make up the name for Wikipedia?Ryanmalik01(talk)01:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

I've taken it out. If someone wants to reinstate it, there needs to be a source.Beorhtwulf(talk)23:13, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Fine's opinion of the film

The article contains a brief section giving some details of the differences between the film and the book. It would be good if this could be elaborated on, and I'm also keen to know what Anne Fine thought of the film. If anyone can include this in the article (with sources), that would be great.Beorhtwulf(talk)23:13, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Plot section

I have added the{{plot}}tag to the "Plot" section of this article, as perWP:FILMPLOTa plot summary for a feature film should be between 400–700 words. When I first did a word count the plot summary was over 1,100 words, and since I added the{{plot}}tag, multiple editors have actuallyexpandedthe plot section. I will be working in the coming days to narrow the plot section down to an ideal length, and will likely revert any edit that expands the plot section to add superfluous details. Remember that the plot sections of articles on works of fiction should only include asummaryof the plot, not every little detail. —KuyaBriBri^Talk15:26, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Could this be a Mrs. Doubtfire reference?

In an episode of the Nickelodeon TV showFanboy and Chum Chum,the class pet bear was named "Mr. Sprinkles." Should I add this to the "In Popular Culture" section of the article? It might just be a coincidence, but could it be a Mrs. Doubtfire reference? --SalmonCat(talk)00:29, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Plot summary

I want the article's plot summary to be long or excessively detailed. Please improve it by adding necessary details and make it less concise.86.166.253.166(talk)19:57, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

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Voice actor for Evelyn Hillard

Who provided the voice for Evelyn Hillard? It is not listed anywhere in the credits for the movie onIMDb.Stevieb2685(talk)22:08, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Orphaned references inMrs. Doubtfire

I check pages listed inCategory:Pages with incorrect ref formattingto try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content fororphaned referencesin wikilinked articles. I have found content for some ofMrs. Doubtfire's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct forthisarticle, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "bwayworld":

• FromDavid Hibbard (stage actor):{{Cite web|author=Rosky|first=Nicole|date=October 16, 2019|title=Breaking:
• FromMrs. Doubtfire (musical):Rosky, Nicole (October 16, 2019)."Breaking: MRS. DOUBTFIRE Will Open on Broadway in Spring 2020 at the Stephen Sondheim Theatre".BroadwayWorld.Retrieved2019-10-16.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not.AnomieBOT⚡10:07, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Curiosities over BBFC cuts

I have decided to add this section in case of curiosities over the proposed cuts by the British Board of Film Classification that were not implemented as part of the compromise to allow the film to be passed at PG. The proposed cuts are not mentioned in any BBFC article. According to the BBFC in recent correspondence, the two cuts that were not implemented would have have only cut out some of the innuendo in the scene at Bridges restaurant with the first cut removing the line "Little Jacky Horny, the horizontal mambo.... the old cunnilinguistics" and the other cut removing the line "I hope you are up to a little competition - she's got a power tool in the bedroom... it's amazing she hasn't chipped her teeth" but there was another proposal which would have removed "She's got the crabs and I don't mean Dungeness". In the final cut of the PG version, all of the innuendo in the scene when Daniel as Mrs Doubtfire was left alone with Stu at the table were cut after Mrs Doubtfire commented that he must be trying to buy Miranda's affection.Tk420(talk)11:20, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Use of movie to be anti-trans

https://x.com/rmayemsinger/status/1613683258830782464 "Daniel Hillard put on a dress to be with his kids. If being with his kids required him to wear a gorilla suit, he'd have worn a gorilla suit. But even so, trans is not synonymous with drag. And using this movie to dehumanize trans people or drag artists is absurd and hateful.https://x.com/Esqueer_/statu/Esqueer_/status/1613609765065588740 3:44 PM · Jan 12, 2023 " This might be worth adding, maybe? --KimYunmi(talk)13:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Request: Offline Source for Blake Livley's audition for Mrs. Doubtfire

I looked into the cited claim for Blake Lively; it led to a list without a good source linking to an interview with Blake Lively. And so I went to an unofficial Scholastic Biography, and there is no direct citations other than a "Further Reading". There are a bunch of offline articles, especially "Blake's Progress" from the December 2009 issue of Marie Clarie...which seems to go through her childhood. If anyone has a copy of that issue, I would love to read through it - since I cannot find a direct interview anywhere online regarding her alleged audition for Mrs. Doubtfire.

https://archive.org/details/blakelively0000matt/page/30/mode/2up?q=%22doubtfire%22:Page 31Yoshiman6464^♫🥚15:30, 24 August 2024 (UTC)