Talk:Oldsmobile Cutlass

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I would just like to take a moment to curse whoever at GM thought it was a good idea to have three different vehicles with the same name in the 1980s. I think I finally have it all straightened out, but what a mess! --SFoskett21:02, Oct 25, 2004 (UTC)

Amen. Makes you wish they'd done what AMC did with Rambler, & elevated it to its own marque.Trekphiler04:26, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Can we include mention the 215 was sold to BLMC after the F-85/clones ceased production, & continues to be used by Morgan today? Also, should the ability to swap motors be mentioned in a straight article? An article onhot roddingOlds Cutlasses, yes...Trekphiler04:42, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

1977?

Just wondering if that picture I added should be here?

Also, I swear to god the 1977 4 door is the rarest version of the cutlass ever... If my efforts to find parts have been any indication anyway:|

Merge Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme

There's a few problems here.

1.) The Supreme was a trim package. 2.) Both these pages duplicate information. 3.) It's confusing what should be where. 4.) GM tried to capitalize on the name of the popular Cutlass and used the same name for numerous cars lines.

It looks like, that at one time, the intent was to refer to the '78-'88 A/G body asCutlass Supreme,which would be confusing, at best.

I proposeOldsmobile Cutlasscover from '62 to the '97 W body, with the Ciera and N body Calais on their own pages.Dagorlad04:42, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

The cars are undeniably distinct, and there are a lot of "Cutlass" cars. The main Cutlass article needs to be clear about what cars it does and doesn't cover, and those it doesn't need to be clearly linked to, but putting them all together would be an awfully long article.IFCAR00:32, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Cutlass Supreme as a separate model refers to the '78-'88 formal roof cars (including the Calais and '85-up Salon) and the '88-'97 W-car. I'd say it's fairly important to have that distinction, since there were three cars with the Cutlass name, and none were just "Cutlass." --Sable23203:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

No more distinct than the difference between any other generation. The claimed distinction is arbitrary, an F-85 is a Cutlass, a Cutlass is not (if it's not the "right" year), a Cutlass Supreme is a Cutlass (if it the "right" year). I agree the article could get long, probably about as long asChevrolet_Corvette,if that's the primary concern this page should just be an overview linking to pages for each major variation.Dagorlad03:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

The W-body Supreme has nothing in common with any other Cutlass, past, concurrent, or future. The A-body Ciera and N-body Calais are in a similar situation. The 1997 N-body was just "Cutlass" but was the replacement for the Ciera.

For what it's worth, Oldsmobile enthusiats consider a "true Cutlass" to be the RWD models only.

So, lets think about this for a minute.

1. Cutlass Ciera needs it's own page.
2. Calais/Cutlass Calais needs it's own page.
3. The W-body needs a separate page.
4. The original Cutlass needs just "Oldsmobile Cutlass."
5. The '97-on Cutlass needs just "Oldsmobile Cutlass."

Take a look at Buick. The Cutlass Supreme was always similar to the Regal, and the base Cutlass/Ciera was simlar to the Century. I think we need to write the Olds articles just like the Buick ones. Forget the fact that there were two nearly identical Cutlasses in the '70s. The Century and Regal were nearly identical in the '70s and in their later years.

If you look at the articles, the early '70s Supreme was a notchback, the others were fastbacks. In '78, the Supreme had a formal roof, the others did not.

I say thatOldsmobile Cutlassshould cover the early Cutlass and the later lower-line models to 1981, and then the '97-99 car.Oldsmobile Cutlass Supremewill cover the high-end notchback through '77, the formal roof cars through '88, and the W-body. --Sable23218:12, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Attempted to clarify the confusing text which described the various Cutlass sub-models in the 1980/90s, and added some pictures for the unfamiliar. IMO, Cutlass Supreme should remain its own article, but the text could be clarified in both articles to describe the relationship with the plain Cutlass.Atarivideomusic(talk)08:47, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

64 Two-door Convertible

A friend of mine owns a 1964 two-door convertible and a Google search is turning up a lot of pages about them but that body style is not listed in the Second Gen section body styles. Should I add it or is it considered a sub-style of the coupe?FyreFiend03:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

cruise

What causes cruise to activate but doesn't lock in the speed? It also will not accelerate when trying to increase the cruise setting>—Precedingunsignedcomment added by208.73.230.12(talk)14:08, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Rallye 350

There is no mention of the Rallye 350 in the 1970 section— Precedingunsignedcomment added byBlackSabbath1996(talk•contribs)22:52, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Irvin Rybicki

The Auto Designer Rybicki can be easily found on other searches.RCNesland(talk)08:40, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

67 cutlass supreme with 455 engine

We had a 67 2dr cutlass supreme with the 455 engine, purchased new, so apparently this engine was available prior to 68. The rear of the car was very light, and with nothing in the trunk, and no one in the back seat, it was difficult to start moving without screeching the tires. CascaRufio(talk)15:54, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Designer edition Supreme

Why no mention of the designer series of Cutlass Supreme? My hub and l owned the Bill Blas's edition...a black beauty with camel half roof and interior. Loved that car!2604:2D80:D410:BD00:90A4:AB42:6A8A:7A6A(talk)03:36, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

1980s Cutlass convertibles?

Did:Oldsmobile make a Cutlass convertible in the 80s I'm seeing a few now and I don't remember ever seeing it back then?— Precedingunsignedcomment added by2600:1005:B0B2:E416:443D:9267:9A47:9926(talk)22:43, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Oldsmobile did not. Any you see would be an aftermarket conversion, such as the Ciera convertibles built by Hess & Eisenhardt. --Sable232(talk)21:14, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Origin and significance of F-85 name

I can't find in this article any explanation of what the name F-85 means and where it came from. That's important information that should be added (or made easier to find if it's already present).38.49.72.17(talk)16:12, 28 April 2024 (UTC)