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Kristina Satterlisted at Requested moves
Arequested movediscussion has been initiated forKristina Satterto be moved toTina Satter.This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussionhere.—RMCD bot23:22, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
WikiProject New York theater
A long inactive WikiProject, WikiProject New York theater, has been moved into a subpage of WikiProject New York City following a requested movehere.The page is now locatedWP:WikiProject New York City/Theatrehere, and it was assumed in the disscussion that this will become of interest to this WikiProject.Kharkiv07(T)02:34, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
RfC: Nikola Tesla
An RFC:Should all discussions and proposals about Nikola Tesla's nationality, ethnicity and country of birth (broadly construed) be limited to the sub-page: Talk:Nikola Tesla/Nationality and ethnicity?has been postedhere.Interested editors are invited to comment.-MrX20:55, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Mattress Performance
There is adiscussion at the BLP noticeboardwhich may be relevant to this wikiproject. --Sammy1339(talk)00:51, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Opinions requested
Talk:New York Academy of Medicine#Lede imageBMK(talk)23:02, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Resolved.BMK(talk)02:17, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
RfC - Mattress Performance (Carry That Weight)
There's currently anopen RfCon a topic that may be of interest to readers of this wikiproject.--BoboMeowCat(talk)03:33, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
City names in infoboxes
I feel like this must have been discussed before... As many of you know mailing addresses in New York City may go by the borough (123 Main St, Brooklyn, NY) as the boroughs share street addresses. This seems to counteract the established standard of "City, State, Country" in infoboxes. An easy way out is to just put "Borough, New York City, New York, US" but that could be too long aesthetically. So is "Borough, New York, US" acceptable provided there is ambiguity as to what borough the subject resides in?—MusikAnimaltalk18:01, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- The USPS's addressing policies are not consistent throughout the city. All mailing addresses in Manhattan are "New York, New York", and in Brooklyn it's "Brooklyn, New York", while in Queens each separate post office is used, as in "Astoria, New York" or "Flushing, New York". (I can't speak with any certainty about the Bronx and Staten Island). Since New York City (and, BTW, that's its official name, "New York City" or "the City of New York" ) is one of a handful of "world cities" which should be recognizable to people all over the globe, I avoid using "New York, New York" and "Brooklyn, New York" with preference for "Manhattan, New York City" and "Brooklyn, New York City", or, if the neighborhood is known and uncontentious "Tribeca, Manhattan, New York City", for instance, or "Carroll Gardens, Brooklyn, New York City". (The "location" parameters in an infobox should give the reader theactual physical location,and not simply a generalized mailing address. I agree that tacking on the state and country makes for quite a long string, and, with the "world city" rationale in mind, I usually don't bother with them at all as being unnecessary.BMK(talk)20:31, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- Why not just go with the USPS official names? That seems like the most straightforward solution to me.Epic Genius(talk)01:15, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- It may be a "straightforward solution", but it's one which is not always going to provide the correct answer - unfortunaely, life is messier than that. USPS names are the names ofpost offices,not necessarily the names of the cities they're in. They were designed for the delivery of mail, not necessarily as identifiers of the locale, and have been superseded by ZIP codes. Many places exist that are in one village or town or city and yet have their mail handled by a post office in another place because it's closer to the address. To take an example you're familiar with, mail to addresses in Marble Hill will be delivered correctly whether they're addressed to "Marble Hill, New York" or "Marble Hill, Bronx", as long as the ZIP code is correct.BMK(talk)04:24, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- I just noticed that there are some places, like "Red Hook, New York", where using just "New York" can be ambiguous (it can refer toRed Hook, Brooklyn;Red Hook (village), New York;or the town ofRed Hook, New York), so I understand that that's why the correct ZIP code is needed. In that case, we can do "Manhattan, New York" for Manhattan; "Brooklyn, New York" for Brooklyn; and "Queens, New York" for Queens, in order to keep consistent with other places outside of NYC – likeAlbany, New York,orBuffalo, New York– since apparently only the ZIP code has to be correct. People from out of NYC will be more familiar with the higher-level administrative divisions (boroughs) of Manhattan, Brooklyn, and Queens, than they will be with lower-level divisions (neighborhoods) of Astoria or Flushing.Epic Genius(talk)15:53, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- Except that the city name is not "New York" (which in any case is ambiguous) but "New York City". "New York, New York" is a postal address only.BMK(talk)18:08, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- I actually meant "New York" as a state name, not a city name. For example, "Manhattan, New York" as opposed to "Manhattan, Kansas"or"Manhattan, Illinois".Epic Genius(talk)20:23, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- I thnk it's much more important to indicate that the place is in New York City then that it's in New York state. As I said, there are a handful of cities -- Paris and London, for instance -- which have this status. They are exceptions to the usual City, State, Country formulation.BMK(talk)20:29, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- I think that if you include a link toManhattan,or toBrooklyn,Queens,the Bronx,orStaten Islandfor that matter, the reader will realize that these are in NYC. Besides, the names of the 5 boroughs are known around the world, and most English speakers know that Manhattan or Brooklyn is in New York City. If not, then "New York City" can be appended.However, even though either "Manhattan, New York City" or "Manhattan, New York" can be used, "Manhattan, United States" cannot.Epic Genius(talk)20:33, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- I thnk it's much more important to indicate that the place is in New York City then that it's in New York state. As I said, there are a handful of cities -- Paris and London, for instance -- which have this status. They are exceptions to the usual City, State, Country formulation.BMK(talk)20:29, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- I actually meant "New York" as a state name, not a city name. For example, "Manhattan, New York" as opposed to "Manhattan, Kansas"or"Manhattan, Illinois".Epic Genius(talk)20:23, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- Except that the city name is not "New York" (which in any case is ambiguous) but "New York City". "New York, New York" is a postal address only.BMK(talk)18:08, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- I just noticed that there are some places, like "Red Hook, New York", where using just "New York" can be ambiguous (it can refer toRed Hook, Brooklyn;Red Hook (village), New York;or the town ofRed Hook, New York), so I understand that that's why the correct ZIP code is needed. In that case, we can do "Manhattan, New York" for Manhattan; "Brooklyn, New York" for Brooklyn; and "Queens, New York" for Queens, in order to keep consistent with other places outside of NYC – likeAlbany, New York,orBuffalo, New York– since apparently only the ZIP code has to be correct. People from out of NYC will be more familiar with the higher-level administrative divisions (boroughs) of Manhattan, Brooklyn, and Queens, than they will be with lower-level divisions (neighborhoods) of Astoria or Flushing.Epic Genius(talk)15:53, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- It may be a "straightforward solution", but it's one which is not always going to provide the correct answer - unfortunaely, life is messier than that. USPS names are the names ofpost offices,not necessarily the names of the cities they're in. They were designed for the delivery of mail, not necessarily as identifiers of the locale, and have been superseded by ZIP codes. Many places exist that are in one village or town or city and yet have their mail handled by a post office in another place because it's closer to the address. To take an example you're familiar with, mail to addresses in Marble Hill will be delivered correctly whether they're addressed to "Marble Hill, New York" or "Marble Hill, Bronx", as long as the ZIP code is correct.BMK(talk)04:24, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- Why not just go with the USPS official names? That seems like the most straightforward solution to me.Epic Genius(talk)01:15, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
@Beyond My KenandEpicgenius:Thanks for the input, guys! I'm late to get back to you, I'm realizing how bad I am at this watchlist thing. Anyway, this question arose from a dispute atBrooklyn Nets.Here, there's no question the team belongs to the borough of Brooklyn, and at least one author (surely others) have opted with "New York City, New York" as opposed to "Brooklyn, New York" or "Brooklyn, New York City, New York" – and here the US ismplied by the affiliation with the NBA (though NBA also has teams in Canada!). So I guess to bring this discussion a step further: Should using the borough name as the city be limited to cases where it as ambiguous? For instance, at the time of writing,Flushing Meadows–Corona Parkis listed as located in "Queens, NY, United States"; then we haveGrand Army Plazalisted as "Brooklyn, New York City" and a different field listing the state of "New York", andMedgar Evers Collegeas "New York City (Crown Heights, Brooklyn), New York, United States"; Meanwhile we haveCentral Parklisted as "ManhataninNew York City, United States ". I guess the question is, should we bother with any sort of consistency? Or perhaps it varies based on subject and not the scope of New York City, such as parks versus sports teams and colleges?—MusikAnimaltalk02:10, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
- @MusikAnimal:The infobox in the "Medgar Evers College"article was an experimental addition of the neighborhood and borough, besides just" New York City, New York, United States ". Most infoboxes about NYC subjects are like those in the"Grand Army Plaza"and"Central Park"articles, which indicate" New York City "as an administrative division behind" United States ".Epic Genius(talk)02:16, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
- Epicgenius: I do not think your generalization about "most infoboxes" is correct, either numerically or stylistically. MusikAnimal: "Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds." (Emerson) I'd go withBrooklyn,New York City.As a world city, New York state and United States are both implied.BMK(talk)03:41, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, the format with NYC linked in the infoboxes is the most common. Indeed, my generalization is correct numerically, unless you can pull up evidence that another format prevails.Epic Genius(talk)15:04, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
- Minor point, three of the mainland Queens GPOs or Section Centers, 111 Long Island City, 113 Flushing, and 114 Jamaica, are former Townships, though Newtown's name has been replaced by LIC. 116 Rockaway is a former panhandle of Town of Hempstead. So, once upon a time, Post Office boundaries followed municipal ones.— Precedingunsignedcomment added byJim.henderson(talk•contribs)
- Cool. So that's probably why any zip code numbered 111xx is often labeled as "Long Island City, New York" whether it's in Astoria, Sunnyside, or somewhere else. Never realized that.Epic Genius(talk)23:41, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
- Always more to learn. I picked up much NY geography, working as a provisional Distribution Clerk in Brooklyn GPO during the Christmas rush of 1968.Jim.henderson(talk)11:52, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah... always good to keep picking knowledge, isn't it?;-)Epic Genius(talk)02:28, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- Epicgenius: I do not think your generalization about "most infoboxes" is correct, either numerically or stylistically. MusikAnimal: "Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds." (Emerson) I'd go withBrooklyn,New York City.As a world city, New York state and United States are both implied.BMK(talk)03:41, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
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Help withMetLife
Hi, New Yorkers! I've been working on behalf ofMetLifeto suggest improvements to their article, and I'm looking for interested editors to join the discussion. A few weeks ago, I proposedsome changesto the article'sHistorysection, but thus far I haven't received any feedback. Since the article is of interest to this WikiProject, as MetLife originated in New York and is headquartered there, I'm hoping editors here might be willing to take a look. Because of myCOI,I will not be making any edits myself and I'm looking for editors to review my work. If you're able to help, I welcome any input. Thanks,16912 Rhiannon(Talk·COI)21:51, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
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Columbia University sculptures
I've identified a few sculptures on the Columbia University campus without Wikipedia articles, if any project members are interested in helping:
- John Howard Van Amringe(sculpture),William Ordway Partridge (1861-1930)
- Letters(sculpture)
- Life Force(sculpture)
- Tight Rope Walker(sculpture)
- Three-Way Piece: Points
Pageview stats
After a recent request, I added WikiProject New York City to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used byhttp://stats.grok.se/en/but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are atWikipedia:WikiProject New York City/Popular pages.
The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using theTool Labs tool.If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks!Mr.Z-man03:44, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
NARA Geographic Error
This isn't the first time theNational Archives and Record Administrationhas been wrong about something, but to those of us with ties to the New York Tri-State area, the mistakes in the description of this image should be pretty obvious. ---------User:DanTD(talk)03:28, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
- Possibly some confusion with Hunt's Point in the Bronx, which is almost directly across the East River from LaGuardia (with Riker's Island between them)?BMK(talk)06:21, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
- Even then, a renaming is definitely needed, as well as a change in description.Epic Genius(talk)18:21, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
- Well, maybe this is the name of a dead neighborhood likeMorris Parkand Hillside. Speaking of neighborhoods that don't seem to exist anymore, anyone have any info on Woodstock and Foxhurst in the Bronx?---------User:DanTD(talk)18:13, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
help needed on ambiguous links in NYC articles
Hi, there are currently 46 articles in WikiProject NYC that have one or more ambiguous links needing to be fixed. Editors at thewp:DPLproject, me included, are fighting towards elimination of all-but-brand-new ambiguous links in Wikipedia within a year now, and could use your help!
The articles with ambiguous links to fix include:
(cs-1)14th_Regiment_(New_York_State_Militia)-find and FIX ambiguous link(s)- (cs-2)Alan_F._Horn-find and FIX ambiguous link(s)
(cs-3)Albanian_Roots-find and FIX ambiguous link(s)- (cs-4)Becky_Yee-find and FIX ambiguous link(s)
(cs-5)Ben_Barenholtz-find and FIX ambiguous link(s)(cs-6)Calvert_Coggeshall-find and FIX ambiguous link(s)- (cs-7)Carl_Bergmann_(musician)-find and FIX ambiguous link(s)
- (cs-8)Claudia_Wagner-find and FIX ambiguous link(s)
- (cs-9)Donaldson_Awards-find and FIX ambiguous link(s)
(cs-10)Doyle_New_York-find and FIX ambiguous link(s);
It would be great to see the NYC articles get struck off wp:DPL's big working list! TIA for any help.:) cheers, --doncram12:28, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- 5 done, 41 remain, as seen byrunning the CatScan search.--doncram21:05, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- 4 done (1 was dead), 36 remain.Epic Genius(talk)01:43, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- DPL points for WikiProject NYC,updates hourly. —Dispenser15:57, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- Cool, thanks.Epic Genius(talk)14:39, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- DPL points for WikiProject NYC,updates hourly. —Dispenser15:57, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- 4 done (1 was dead), 36 remain.Epic Genius(talk)01:43, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Studebaker Building in Bedford-Stuyvesant vs. Crown Heights
Recently I had a discussion withUser:Beyond My Kenabout a commons category he created for the NYCL-registered Studebaker Building in Crown Heights, and I mentioned the fact that there was another Studebaker Building on Dean Street in Bedford-Stuyvesant. This one doesn't have such landmark status, but does anybody have any info about it anyhow? ---------User:DanTD(talk)02:37, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
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My apologies for the quality of the images,... -
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.. that's all that matters.
- What's the address?BMK(talk)02:47, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, I see 1000 Dean, is that right?BMK(talk)02:48, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- The city's GIS map is not very helpful[1].It lists the building with a date of "1965 (estimated)" which is obviously not right - it most probably reflects the oldest item in the DOB's archives.Thebuilding's websiteisn't any help either, it just says the building was "Formerly the Studebaker Service Station", which at least implies that it wasn't a showroom.BMK(talk)03:02, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Or a factory. Something about that building doesn't convince me that it's from 1965 either. The design is minimalist enough, but it seems too Art Deco to me. Plus, Studebaker was pretty much limping towards its death at the time, and moved to Canada just before then. I find it hard to believe they would even consider building anything that big in the USA back then, let alone in New York City. ---------User:DanTD(talk)15:24, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, exactly the reasons I didn't think 1965 was a good estimate. The GIS map is OK on dates when it's definite about them, but not so much when it uses estimates. BTW, I also checked the AIA guide, and it doesn't include the building, so no joy there.BMK(talk)18:27, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Discussion about units on NYC hotel article
Did Einstein have a ticker-tape parade??
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Winter scene on the Bronx River
Is this scene along theBronx Riverin The Bronx, or somewhere in Westchester County? ---------User:DanTD(talk)02:39, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Help withOgilvy & Mather
Hi, I've been working on improvements for the article of advertising agencyOgilvy & Mather.The agency is headquartered in NYC and the article falls under the scope of this project, so I thought editors here might be interested in reviewing my work. I will not be making any edits myself, because I'm working on behalf of the company and have a financial conflict of interest.
Most recently, I proposed a newMajor worksection on theTalk pageto replace the currentNotable campaignssection. My draft significantly expands what's already in the article and I'm hoping an editor here might be willing to take a look and give feedback if they have any. Thanks in advance,Heatherer(talk)01:05, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
PR
Lady Gagais currently up for a peer review. SeeWikipedia:Peer review/Lady Gaga/archive4.Snuggums(talk/edits)03:55, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
I was surprised no one has yet created an article on this newly built performance space in Brooklyn. Here are refs if anyone is interest in creating an article:[2],[3],[4],[5].Best.4meter4(talk)23:54, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
Another image to identify
I didn't take this pic, but it's vaguely familiar to me. I thought I saw something like this near Union Square back in September 2015. ---------User:DanTD(talk)13:19, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
- It's 486 Broadway, also known as 437-441 Broome Street, in the SoHo neighborhood of Manhattan, New York City, built in 1885 as the Mechanics & Traders Bank, designed by the firm of Lamb & Rich in the Moorish and Romanesque Revival styles. (Sources:AIA Guide to NYC(4th ed.),NYCLPC SoHo - Cast Iron District Designation Report) This shot (andthis one) shows the Broome Street facade. The building is right across Broome from theE.V. Haughwout Building.BMK(talk)04:14, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
- @DanTD:Pinging DanTD.BMK(talk)00:38, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- I read this earlier. Thanks. ---------User:DanTD(talk)01:47, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
Farragut Houses
Does anyone want to help me clean up theFarragut Housesarticle, or at least add more information? I already cleaned out the page of unnecessary statistics, irrelevant information that is pertinent to other topics, grammar errors,WP:NOTNEWS,WP:COATRACK,WP:NOTDIRECTORY,etc. The article is half the size that it was earlier today, so I'd really appreciate if someone could give this another opinion. Thanks in advance.epicgenius(talk)02:10, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Historic markers as Copyvio? Really?
The plaque atArbitration Rockwas recently tagged as aWP:COPYVIO,but to me this just looks like a historic plaque. ---------User:DanTD(talk)16:38, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- It looks like the plaque itself is copyrighted. As perC:COM:FOP,in the United States, 2D sculpture, 3D sculpture, and text, as well as architectural design features and artwork, may fall under copyright law. We can save this image if we re-upload it under non-free criteria, though.epicgenius(talk)00:55, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note, though, that if the plaque were a product of the US Federal Government it may well be in the public domain. I suspect that it was produced by a local government, though, so is presumably protected by copyright.Pburka(talk)02:34, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- It doesn't look like the work of the federal government. It actually looks like a borough government's plaque, or even worse for copyright, a privately owned plaque.epicgenius(talk)03:32, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note, though, that if the plaque were a product of the US Federal Government it may well be in the public domain. I suspect that it was produced by a local government, though, so is presumably protected by copyright.Pburka(talk)02:34, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Requesting review of proposed changes
I work forBounce Exchange.The article had some problems, which I have tried to address in a recent edit. I have been trying to discuss them on the article’s talk page, but further perspectives would be helpful -Cxob(talk)00:16, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
I just want to let WikiProject NYC, that there is a proposal for aWorld Trade Center WikiProject.Please voice your support/opposition/opinion. Thanks,CookieMonster755📞✉✓19:45, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Auto-assessment of article classes
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George Washington Bridge Sidewalk
Don't we have more images of the pedestrian paths along theGeorge Washington Bridge?Because if we had more we could split them off into a new commons subcat. ---------User:DanTD(talk)20:43, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- I have one that I haven't posted yet - it's really of the west tower, but the sidewalk is in there. The bridge is only a few blocks from me, so I can go down and take some shots if you'd like.BMK(talk)21:09, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- Just uploaded the one I had:File:George Washington Bridge west tower and south sidewalk seen from the west.jpg.BMK(talk)21:16, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry, I still intended to take some more shots of the walkway, but I haven't been able to get to it, and I'm going to be pretty backedup for the next 10 days. I'll try to do it after that.BMK(talk)02:42, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Just uploaded the one I had:File:George Washington Bridge west tower and south sidewalk seen from the west.jpg.BMK(talk)21:16, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Hello, this is a question for WikiProject New York City. Does New Hyde Park, Nassau County, have unincorporated areas in Queens? I ask because there is a dispute going on atTalk:Omar_Mateen#Place_of_birth,along the lines that mass shooterOmar Mateenwas born in New Hyde Park, Queens.Kylo, Rey, & Finn Consortium(talk)01:15, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- No, there is no way a village in Nassau could include any unincorporated sections of New York City, they would all have to be in Nassau. Now, that doesn't mean that there might not be aneighborhoodof Queens which is called "New Hyde Park" because of its propinquity to the village in Nassau, but it could not in any way be official part of Nassau.BMK(talk)01:31, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- So look atthis site,which says:
- 3. New Hyde Park
- New Hyde Park, Queens
- The Queens New Hyde Park contains only a handful of streets, so it's much smaller than its Nassau cousin. The two are nearly the same -- with mostly single-family homes built from the 1920s to 1950s. They are both great neighborhoods for families. They also share a zip code: 11040.
- New Hyde Park Village, Nassau Countyis an incorporated village just east of Floral Park.
- So, it's a neighborhood in Queens. Remember that Nassau County used to be part of Queens County, but was separated from it when Greater NYC was created. It sounds like they put the dividing line through acommunity(no official status) called New Hyde Park, so most of it ended up in Nassau and a rump part ended up in Queens. To find out where the guy was born, Nassau or Queens, you're going to need to know the address of his place of birth.BMK(talk)01:37, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- @Beyond My Ken:Exactly what I thought. But the zip code of New Hyde Park, which is 11040, has parts in both Nassau and Queens. What I'm thinking is that Mateen was born inLong Island Jewish Medical Center,which is in both Queens and Nassau. I'm still trying to find sources for that. The discussion is atTalk:Omar Mateen#Birth place again.Kylo, Rey, & Finn Consortium(talk)01:10, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, the zips were assigned by the Feds for the convenience of the post offices and don't have to take into account county or city lines, and, obviously, as long as the portion of the hospital which is in each jurisdiction follows the applicable laws and regulations, there's not to stop them from building across the county line. (It may be apochryphal, but I've heard that there are houses in Maine in which part of the house is in the US and part is in Canada.)BMK(talk)02:47, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- @Beyond My Ken:Exactly what I thought. But the zip code of New Hyde Park, which is 11040, has parts in both Nassau and Queens. What I'm thinking is that Mateen was born inLong Island Jewish Medical Center,which is in both Queens and Nassau. I'm still trying to find sources for that. The discussion is atTalk:Omar Mateen#Birth place again.Kylo, Rey, & Finn Consortium(talk)01:10, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Please comment or read this Move Review
Hi there,
I'm attempting to let this project's members know ofWikipedia:Move review/Log/2016 June,where a Move Review is taking place. A Requested Movewas implemented,movingNew YorktoNew York (state),which is now being contested. This should be of relevant interest to this WikiProject.
Best,ɱ(talk)·vbm·coi)21:02, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Alternative proposal
Please see Talk:New York (disambiguation)#Broad concept article proposal.TIA!Andrewa(talk)01:53, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
Meaning of "Manhattan, New York" and similar mentions
Many articles list a New York borough as the birth or death place of a person or as the location of a landmark in the form "Manhattan, New York" or "Manhattan, New York, US". In such cases, is "New York" supposed to refer to New York City or to New York State? As a foreigner, I can't tell, although my gut feeling would be to point to the city as the next administrative level up. Follow up question: would it be appropriate to list such places as "Manhattan, New York, NY, U.S." or would the extra "NY" be considered bad style? Your answers will help automate the disambiguation ofNew Yorklinks if therecent page moveis endorsed. —JFGtalk23:34, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
- If "Manhattan, New York" is used, it can only mean "Manhattan, New York City". I don't think it has to be spelled out that way, though, because it wouldn't add anything. As for linking and disambiguating: any wikilink afterManhattanis unnecessary perWO:OVERLINK.In fact, even mentioning "US" is unnecessary. --Michael Bednarek(talk)06:45, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
- It makes no difference. Manhattan is part of New York City which is part of New York state, so a person who died in Manhattan died in both New York City and New York state. ~~
NY move request
A move from "New York" to "New York (state)" has been overturned and relisted. A new subpage atTalk:New York/July 2016 move requesthas been created, and this WikiProject's members might be interested in participating.Snuggums(talk/edits)04:57, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
I am concerned
I am concerned that despite widespread support for relisting, there has so far been no input at all atTalk:New York/July 2016 move request#Argument and evidence in opposition to moving the page,which has been open for some days but will shortly be closed and the new move opened for discussion. Please consider whether you have a case to put. Thank you.Andrewa(talk)18:51, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- Note to the project: this move request is now underway atTalk:New York/July 2016 move request.bd2412T01:50, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Lower Manhattan map for pin
Hi, I've created a better scale map for Lower Manhattan and a bit more to the north atTemplate:Location map United States Lower Manhattan.Feel free to update some of the building articles in Lower with this.♦Dr. Blofeld12:02, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
Photo requests
Recently, some photo requests have come up on the user talk page ofDanTD(talk·contribs).
The requests are:
- Victor A. Moore Bus Terminal40°44′48″N73°53′27″W/ 40.7466333°N 73.890713°W
- Hotel St. George,Clark St Subway Entrance40°44′48″N73°53′27″W/ 40.7466333°N 73.890713°W;Street view
Now there is a stipulation - the views of the subway entrances must be unobstructed by any vehicles.
Photos are much appreciated.epicgenius(talk)03:00, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
- I'd like to point out that in the case of the Hotel St. George subway entrance, you could probably get some from inside. But that street view thatepicgenius(talk·contribs) showed you is good too. ---------User:DanTD(talk)03:15, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
- In the meantime, there's alonger list of sitesthat I think deserve pictures. ---------User:DanTD(talk)23:16, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Alexander Cartwright
Can someone rewrite the article forAlexander Cartwright?The article needs be better research and reflect modern scholarly consensus on the subject.--KAVEBEAR(talk)18:31, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
RFC: Is New York State the primary topic for the term "New York"?
Editors interested in New York City may want to contribute to theRFC asking whether New York State the primary topic for the term "New York".—JFGtalk10:28, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion atTalk:Metropolitan Transportation Authority (New York)#Requested move 13 September 2016.epicgenius(talk)00:37, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
Vandalism atCrime in New York City
I'm a little surprised, and upset, that vandals got away with putting bogus figures intoCrime in New York Cityfor three days straight, ending withthis version.This of course was following the dispute at the presidential debate about whether murder is on the rise, and someone brilliantly decided to change the figures to make it seem this was actually the case when it is not. Another vandal changed the total violent crime to 00000, so there was a mix... Anyway, both Trump and Clinton are based in New York City, so until mid-November I think we should try keep a close eye on any topics that may be cited in politics. Crime related articles are likely major targets, so feel free to add this one to your watchlist, if you're up for the challenge of monitoring it. Many thanks—MusikAnimaltalk03:20, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
399 Park Avenue
Hello,
I am a Citi employee and would like to have the 399 Park Avenue page updated as the global headquarters have now moved downtown to 388-390 Greenwich Street. I recently went through this same exercise with the Citigroup page and now wish to do the same to the 399 Park Avenue page.
Please revise the first paragraph of the current 399 Park Avenue page with the following but keep the current hyperlinks:
399 Park Avenue is a 41-story office building that from 1961 to 2015 was the world headquarters of Citigroup in Manhattan, New York City. The company moved to the building from 55 Wall Street and is now headquartered at 388 Greenwich Street. 399 Park Avenue occupies the entire block between Park Avenue and Lexington Avenue and 53rd Street and 54th Street. The building lot was assembled by Vincent Astor who initially planned to build a 46-story Astor Plaza on the site. Astor had problems completing the assembly of the lots of mostly residential buildings as a pharmacy held out.
Also, for the image caption to the right, please change "Citigroup Center" to "601 Lexington Avenue"
Thank you for reading through this request.
192.193.171.150(talk)16:35, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
Update 10/13/16: I have updated the 399 Park Avenue page myself with the changes described above in my original request. Thank you.— Precedingunsignedcomment added by199.67.138.43(talk)14:22, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
US 50,000 Challenge invite
Hi. TheWikipedia:WikiProject United States/The 50,000 Challengehas recently started, based on the UK/IrelandWikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge.The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more states than they might otherwise work on. If there's the interest I will start 1000 State Challenges likeWikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Nordic).For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of states regularly contributing. If you would like to see masses of articles being improved for the US and your specialist/home state likeWikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon,sign up today and once the challenge starts a contest can be organized. This is a way we can target every state, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant and also sign under any state sub challenge on the page that you might contribute to! Thankyou.♦Dr. Blofeld15:23, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Mysterious window/door at 2016 Open House
I see that the recent Open House New York Weekend Photo Competition worked out well. I wish I could've gone up for that, but in the meantime, there's one site that's a total mystery. On another topic, I think there should've been separate categories for Ellis Island, Roosevelt Island, etcetera. ---------User:DanTD(talk)03:10, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
Challenge for New York is up and running, needs contributors!♦Dr. Blofeld18:11, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
HappyEvacuation Day!
I've been working a fair bit on this article lately, especially on historical commemorations, thought others might like collaborate as well, given it's November 25, and today the article is in the spoltight:Evacuation Day.--Pharos(talk)09:51, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
No 2016 NYC Gay Pride March images
One thing I noticed this year, is that there are absolutely no images of the 2016 Gay Pride Parade in the commons, but plenty of images of memorials atStonewall InnandChristopher Parkto thePulse Nightclub massacrein Orlando. I've seriously considered renaming the parade category, and splitting it between the two memorials. ---------User:DanTD(talk)15:51, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
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Help withBNY Mellon?
Hoping to find someone to help makea few updatesto theThe Bank of New York Mellonarticle. I won't make the edits myself, because of my financial conflict of interest: I am monitoring the article on behalf of BNY Mellon. I posted a message to the Talk page a month ago and haven't had any responses, so I thought it made sense to bring it folks' attention here. I welcome anyone to make the changes or leave me feedback on the Talk page. Thanks!Heatherer(talk)17:55, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
The Bronx Times
Would somebody from this WikiProject mind taking a look atThe Bronx Timesand possibly assessing it? The article was recently prodded, but was restored perWP:REFUND#The Bronx Times.Are there any notability guidelines in addition toWP:GNGandWP:NORGwhich might specifically apply to online newspapers such as this because the subject does not (at first glance) appear to be notable enough for a stand-alone article. The article has been tagged with maintenance templates since January 2014 so it may simply be a case ofWP:NRV.Anyway, any suggestions for improvement or ideas about where to find better sourcing would be most appreciated. Feel free to add them to the article's talk page. Thanks in advance. --Marchjuly(talk)00:50, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
Conflict onMenachem Mendel Schneersonand mention of theCrown Heights riots
I have closed the dispute mediation, because I do not believe this will be productive. Instead I have opened discussion on— Precedingunsignedcomment added byRococo1700(talk•contribs)00:25, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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I have had many problems in past with this article, but the most recent problem is that the article fails to mention theCrown Heights riots,even if but to mention that Schneerson's motorcade was involved. Again my source, and my justification, for adding this to Schneerson's article is that the New York Times obituary[6],and every retrospective article I found on the riots, mentions Schneerson. When I add any mention there is a team of editors that raises extraneous and false claims. I would urge authors interested in this area to help edit some entry in this article that does justice to the link.
My entry, which I thought was the least controversial, although entered in the controversy section (should it have its own section or his legacy?) stated:
- Crown Heights Riot
TheCrown Heights disturbancesin August 19, 1991, which became a central issue in a New York City mayoral race, were set off when a car in Rabbi Schneerson's motorcade went out of control and killed a 7-year-old black child. In the days that followed, a riot erupted in the neighborhood, reflecting existing tensions between Jewish and black residents. Two men, one of them a young Lubavitch adherent, were killed during the riots. A grand jury found no reason bring charges against anyone in the motorcade.[1][2]
I could live with a shorter version. My quibble is that an article on Schneerson should include the words: motorcade of... SchneersonandCrown Heights riotin the same paragraph. I could use help from editors providing some reasonable framework with how to proceed.Rococo1700(talk)05:25, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
References
- ^New York Daily News,article titledCrown Heights erupts in three days of race riots after Jewish driver hits and kills Gavin Cato, 7, in 1991,retrospective about the riots, by Rich Schapiro and Ginger Adams Otis, August 13, 2016.
- ^Rabbi Schneerson Led A Small Hasidic Sect To World Prominenceby Ari Goldman, June 13, 1994.
More opinions needed atTalk:Stuyvesant Town–Peter Cooper Village# "Charter"Beyond My Ken(talk)04:40, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
Crazy EddieGA Reassessment Notice
I am conducting a GA Reassessment atTalk:Crazy Eddie/GA1.Feel free to improve it per my suggestions there. Thanks,Shearonink(talk)06:16, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
Good article reassessment ofGowanus Canal
Gowanus Canal,an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to thereassessment page.If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article.epicgenius(talk)00:59, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Comments on RfC Donald Trump requested
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More opinions requested
atTalk:Times Square#Proposal.Beyond My Ken(talk)19:09, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Members of this Wikiproject will probably be interested in this RfC.Beyond My Ken(talk)02:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
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Discussion on whether to include information on recurring rat infestation issues in a New York City neighborhood
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Fearless Girlstatue
I createdFearless Girl,if a New Yorker is able to help by illustrating this article. ---Another Believer(Talk)16:16, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Please seeTalk:Buffalo–Niagara_Falls_metropolitan_area#RfC_about_the_3_separate_regional_articles.This could use a few more responses. Thank you. --Lemongirl942(talk)13:19, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Draft:Pier 76
ShouldDraft:Pier 76be moved to the main space? ---Another Believer(Talk)21:15, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
- The references need to be improved. First (but easily fixed) they're all shown as having the same title. But more importantly, they're all (or almost all) primary sources. The article ought to have a couple of reliable secondary sources to demonstrate notability before it's moved to main space.Pburka(talk)00:07, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
One burned out building in the South Bronx
This has been nagging me for a while, but I've had a suspicion this building might be in Mott Haven. If not, then Concourse. I've been looking for each on Google Street View, but so far I've found nothing. ---------User:DanTD(talk)20:27, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
- Pleasant coincidence, I was already considering biking to Port Morris tomorrow. We'll see.Jim.henderson(talk)19:09, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
RfC on Donald Trump talk page
Please comment on the RfC on Donald Trump talk regarding whether or not to open a section on LGBT rights in the Domestic Policy section of the Donald Trump articlehere.Thank you.SW3 5DL(talk)01:47, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
Whitestone Library Image
Okay, I need to determine which of these images of theWhitestoneBranch of the Queens Borough Public Library would be good for theList of Queens Library branches.I was already able to get one for Bayside and two for Fresh Meadows. I tried to get Bay Terrace, but it was too dark back then.
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Some might be too close. -
All of them have too much snow and ice. -
Then there's something else... -
.. along Clintonville Street.
So, take your pick. ---------User:DanTD(talk)23:56, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
- You know what? Since nobody is picking anything, I'll just throw in the second one. ---------User:DanTD(talk)18:49, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
Members of this project...
...may be interested inthis discussion.Beyond My Ken(talk)20:32, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Members of this Project...
...may be interested inthis discussion].Beyond My Ken(talk)23:10, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
New descendant wikiproject
Members of this project may be interested inWikipedia:WikiProject Chinese in New York City,a descendant project that has been created recently. Regards,epicgenius(talk)18:43, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
Q59 Bus location
Okay, is this bus in Brooklyn or Queens? ---------User:DanTD(talk)20:16, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
- @DanTD:It's in Brooklyn, I can say this much. Grand Ave in Queens is wider.epicgenius(talk)19:29, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. I fixed it. ---------User:DanTD(talk)23:29, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
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Comments requested
Verrazano-Narrows Bridge name
Someone suggested that I should post a note here drawing interested parties’ attention to edits at theVerrazano-Narrows Bridgepage. This name should take a hyphen (-), not an en dash (–). In the context of bridge names, en dashes take the place of the word “to”: the Brooklyn–Battery Tunnel is the Brooklyn-to-Battery Tunnel. But the Verrazano is not a bridge connecting the Verrazano & the Narrows. Rather, it’s 2 alternative names for the same thing (the Verrazano Bridge and the Narrows Bridge) smushed together. This is exactly analogous to when Ms. Doe & Mr. Roe marry to become Mr. and Ms. Doe-Roe: they use a hyphen. In other words, the rule is not “bridges and tunnels use an en dash instead of a hyphen in their names”; you have to look deeper.
I’m a professional copyeditor with many years’ experience editing to both American and British standards. That makes me a bona fide en-dash weenie—probably the weeniest en-dash weenie of them all—but to use one in Verrazano–Narrows makes no sense. It is a contrived construction that flies in the face of convention. You can tie yourself up in pretzels arguing that it's not a bridge over the Verrazano Narrows (the Narrows themselves not being named for Verrazzano), but the terms "Verrazano" and "Narrows" are still not coordinate ones. Really, though, what's wrong with it is that it snags the eye.
I had made this point on the VNB Talk page and, not hearing any objections after a week, posted it at Moves Requested. The move to Verrazano-Narrows Bridge has been made, and I’m now in the process of going thru What Links Here and tidying up. But I wanted to make sure that everyone was aware of the reasoning behind the change so that nobody decides it must be a mistake and starts to undo it without discussion.
I’m also posting this at the Bridges project. Let’s direct discussion to the VNB talk page to keep it all in one place, if that is agreeable.Gould363(talk)17:29, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
- Seems reasonable to me.Beyond My Ken(talk)19:12, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Move request underway
Hi all
This is a heads up to let you know that there is a requested move, proposing to move theNew York (disambiguation)page toNew York,and the currentNew Yorkpage toNew York (state).Please go toTalk:New York (disambiguation),read through the request and give your thoughts and feedback in the discussion. Thanks! —Amakuru(talk)11:52, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Which city
SeeTalk:New York#Which cityfor a discussion of great interest to this WikiProject.Andrewa(talk)22:18, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Categories
As some of you may have seen, because of the change ofNew Yorkfrom being targeted at the state to its becoming a DAB page, categories that were "X in New York" have been moved by bots to "X in New York (state)". Unfortunately, many of the entries in those categories really would be better categorized in "X in New YorkCity".I and a couple of others have been moving entries by hand, but it would all go a lot faster if others would join in as well. It's not only the" X architecture "categories, but also things such as" Clubhouse "," Concert halls "," Performing arts centers "," X churches "and so on.
When the category was "X in New York" the ambiguity as to whether "New York" meant the state or the city was a bit annoying, but the same ambiguity did allow for both entries to live together in the one category. Now that the cats are being specified as "New York (state)", it's worthwhile -- given the large number of entries that are located in the city -- to differentiate between them.
I look forward to any help that the members of this project would like to give.Beyond My Ken(talk)00:02, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Category:Bridges in New York City
I propose removing all the members of "Category:Bridges in New York City"that are already in any" Category:Bridges in <borough name> ". The reason is because of consistency with other similar categories named" <Structure type> in New York City ". For example, if something is in" Category:Buildings and structures in <borough name> ", it is not in"Category:Buildings and structures in New York City".As far as I know, this category is the only bridge-related category, or New York City-related category, that does notdiffuse.
I can see why this doesn't diffuse since it is a relatively small category and most bridges are in multiple boroughs. However, this doesn't create problems other than duplication across categories.epicgenius(talk)21:57, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- (ec) I understand your thinking, but the purpose of categorization is to make it easier to find things, and it's far from certain that the general reader is going to know what borough to find the bridge they're looking for in. Besides, many If not most) of the bridges are in two boroughs. No my feeling is that "Bridges in New York City" should be an all-inclusive master category.Beyond My Ken(talk)22:02, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- I see. I thought if the reader were to look for a bridge but didn't know which borough it was in, they would probably go to that page first and look at the categories there (same as with "Buildings and structures in New York City", etc.). But this works too. Anyway, let's see if any other editors think otherwise.epicgenius(talk)23:08, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Woodside or Kuala Lumpur
FYI, there are a lot of images in the commons vaguely categorized ascommons:Category:United States,which are incorrectly described as being inWoodside, Queenswhen in reality they're inKuala Lumpur.Don't ask me how anybody could make such an absurd mistake. ---------User:DanTD(talk)12:05, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Wow.Beyond My Ken(talk)12:09, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- In any case,c:Category:United Statesis rather a useless category that should really only have other categories in it, and no images. Or, if there are images, they should be of places which are clearly in the US but which are not distinctly identified. Having a category full of random pictures of places in the US is (as I said) pretty darn uselsss.Beyond My Ken(talk)12:14, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- I agree, and the sooner all the images are narrowed down to their specific locations, the sooner it'll become the metacat that it should be. ---------User:DanTD(talk)23:09, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- In any case,c:Category:United Statesis rather a useless category that should really only have other categories in it, and no images. Or, if there are images, they should be of places which are clearly in the US but which are not distinctly identified. Having a category full of random pictures of places in the US is (as I said) pretty darn uselsss.Beyond My Ken(talk)12:14, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
The articleBronx Community Board 8has beenproposed for deletionbecause of the following concern:
This page may not meet Notability guidelines, along with need a lot of citations.
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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing{{proposed deletion/dated}}will stop theproposed deletion process,but otherdeletion processesexist. In particular, thespeedy deletionprocess can result in deletion without discussion, andarticles for deletionallows discussion to reachconsensusfor deletion.Tewksbg(talk)23:25, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- I've removed the PROD. Take it to AfD, if you must.Beyond My Ken(talk)00:19, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
AfD of interest to this group
291 Broadway.Beyond My Ken(talk)20:23, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Image request
If anybody is interested, there is an image request for the newCornell Techcampus on the southern half of Roosevelt Island. It's located at Talk:Cornell Tech.epicgenius(talk)04:35, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Airport in Manhattan?
Somebody took a bunch of picture each with the name "Manhattan New York City 2009 PD," but they're obviously from one of the three major airports in the Tri-State area, which means there's no way in hell any of them could be in Manhattan. You'll find the disputed images in thecommons:Category:Airports in New York,and there's no way you can convince me they're from any heliports in Manhattan. My first guesses would've been eitherJohn F. Kennedy International AirportorLaGuardia Airport,but the New Jersey license plates on some of the ground crew makes me suspect it might beNewark Liberty International Airport.So who wants to take a guess at where they might really be? ---------User:DanTD(talk)15:22, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
- While they're being evaluated, I've moved them intoCommons:Category:Unidentified airport, New York metro area.Beyond My Ken(talk)17:34, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
- I don't believe that Lufthansa flies out of LaGuardia, so it would have to be Newark or Kennedy. The truck shown in one image is Continental's, and I think that Newark is a Continental hub, so my money's on Newark.Beyond My Ken(talk)17:38, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
- I think it's Newark too, LGA and JFK don't look like that.epicgenius(talk)04:36, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
- Minds more eager than mine could probably follow the photographer's stream of pictures chronologically to identify the neighborhood or the route.Jim.henderson(talk)17:05, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Blessed Sacrament Church in Cypress Hills
Am I really the only person on Wikipedia who has any images of theBlessed Sacrament ChurchinCypress Hills, Brooklyn?---------User:DanTD(talk)16:34, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Isn't this the church that appeared in the last or next-to-last episode of the CBS TV seriesElementary,where Holmes had his AA meeting? If it is, it was quite impressive.Beyond My Ken(talk)20:17, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- I've done a little research and created a Wikidata item for the church -Blessed Sacrament Church(Q41034422)- it can sometimes be a good staging ground for covering a building like this, as you don't need to demonstrate notability in the same way as Wikipedia.--Pharos(talk)00:58, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- No promises, but I may try to get out there this weekend. It's much harder for me to get to further-out parts of Brooklyn since I moved from midtown to "upstate Manhattan", but the church looks like it's right off the A train, so it's just a matter of find the 4 hours it would take to get there, take some pics (and some others in the area) and get back. Maybe I can do it on Friday when I have to be downtown anyway, we'll see.Beyond My Ken(talk)01:08, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Actually, it's off the J train, but I suppose you can transfer atBroadway Junction (New York City Subway).---------User:DanTD(talk)13:25, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the helpful correction.Beyond My Ken(talk)19:46, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- You're welcome. And though I'm glad many of you like picture I've posted...--------User:DanTD(talk)12:39, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the helpful correction.Beyond My Ken(talk)19:46, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Actually, it's off the J train, but I suppose you can transfer atBroadway Junction (New York City Subway).---------User:DanTD(talk)13:25, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- No promises, but I may try to get out there this weekend. It's much harder for me to get to further-out parts of Brooklyn since I moved from midtown to "upstate Manhattan", but the church looks like it's right off the A train, so it's just a matter of find the 4 hours it would take to get there, take some pics (and some others in the area) and get back. Maybe I can do it on Friday when I have to be downtown anyway, we'll see.Beyond My Ken(talk)01:08, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- I've done a little research and created a Wikidata item for the church -Blessed Sacrament Church(Q41034422)- it can sometimes be a good staging ground for covering a building like this, as you don't need to demonstrate notability in the same way as Wikipedia.--Pharos(talk)00:58, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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.. and shots from other angles would be great.
Sunday October 15:Wikipedia @ Open House New York / Weekend Photo Competition
We'd like to invite WikiProject New York City folks to participate n this event, which is part of the largerOpen House New York Weekend.We've held some other in-person NYC events, but this is the first one in a long time with a strong local history focus (which is what attracted me to Wikipedia in the first place, like others here) and I hope people might find that interesting too.--Pharos(talk)15:40, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
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Chelsea Park image request
Does anyone happen to have more photos ofChelsea Park?I looked on Commons and didn't find any photos specifically for that park, and only found one photo on Flickr.epicgenius(talk)14:25, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
Ongoing FAC
Members of this WikiProject might be interested in leaving comments atWikipedia:Featured article candidates/Lady Gaga/archive2.Snuggums(talk/edits)16:15, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Ruby Karp
Ruby Karpis a recently created article. Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at it and assessing it? --Marchjuly(talk)23:29, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Important notice
ResolvedDNAinfoandGothamisthave both suddenly shut down with all of their articles redirecting to the shutdown notice (source), leaving hundreds if not thousands of dead links across the entire wiki. These links should be archived ASAP. Here is a list of links:
epicgenius(talk)00:34, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Never mind, I made a bot request andit has been fulfilled.epicgenius(talk)13:39, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Flatiron District boundaries
Concerning the boundaries of the Flatiron District in NYC:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatiron_District
This entry says: "Generally the Flatiron District is bounded by 20th Street, Union Square and Greenwich Village to the south; the Avenue of the Americas (Sixth Avenue) or Seventh Avenue and Chelsea to the west; 25th Street and NoMad to the north; Rose Hill to the northeast, and Lexington Avenue/Irving Place, Gramercy Park to the east.[1][2]"
The Department of City Planning in NYC rezoning application for Ladies Mile says it is in the Flatiron District, it says: "This application seeks to rezone a 5- block area in the Flatiron District. The area is located on the midblocks between Fifth and Sixth avenues, from the centerline between 16th and 17th streets to the south, to 22nd Street on the north. Except for two properties in its southwest corner, the entire Rezoning Area is located within the Ladies Mile Historic District." See:https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/planning/download/pdf/plans/ladies-mile/ladiesmile.pdf
Quoting the NYT: "The boundaries of the Flatiron can be a subject of disagreement, but the district generally runs from the Avenue of the Americas to Park Avenue South between 14th and 23rd Streets, excluding the blocks adjacent to Union Square. Still, as often happens when a neighborhood becomes popular, some see its borders as expanded. The Flatiron 23rd Street Partnership, the six-year-old business improvement district that keeps streets clean and maintains two public plazas created on Broadway in 2008, places the northern boundary in the upper 20s, an area some call NoMad, or North of Madison Square Park."
Based on architectural style many other sites cite similar boundaries for the District: -https://www.compass.com/neighborhood-guides/nyc/flatiron/ -https://www.airbnb.com/locations/new-york/flatiron-district -http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/realestate/flatiron-district-living-in-profile-always-high-keeps-current-too.html
I understand the Flatiron/23rd St Bid and real-estate interests want to define the district differently, but their map does not make sense architecturally and runs counter to NYC's boundaries, NYT's boundaries and many other respected sources.
More research will find city documents that agree with the NYT's boundaries, more than the BID's boundaries. In the interest of accuracy we should change the boundaries inhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatiron_Districtto reflect this.— Precedingunsignedcomment added byRandomplace(talk•contribs)20:16, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
νew Υork City listed atRedirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirectΝew Υork City.Please participate inthe redirect discussionif you have not already done so.70.51.45.76(talk)03:42, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- NOTEseeTalk:νew Υork Citywhere74.108.224.146(talk·contribs) has made a suggestion forNew Υork City(New UPSILONork City/ new υork city ) to be a redirect toNew York City--70.51.46.255(talk)10:10, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject
Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point todisambiguationpages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members ofWikiProject Disambiguationhave been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.
A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found athttp://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_New_York_City
Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.—Rodtalk17:41, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
Discussion of interest to this project
Discussion atTalk:Stuyvesant High School#Copy editing
You are invited to join the discussion atTalk:Stuyvesant High School#Copy editing.epicgenius(talk)17:34, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
This is a Featured Article that needs a lot of copy editing and referencing fixes. I would preferably not want to send this article to Featured Article Review, but unless these issues are fixed, I willhave no choice but tosend this article to FAR.epicgenius(talk)17:34, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- You "will have no choice"? Of course you have a choice, nothing is mandatory in that respect. If you went to send it to FAR, that's fine, but please don't pretend that something isforcingyou to do so - it'sentirelyyour decision whether to send it or not.Beyond My Ken(talk)19:52, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- Well, it's either me or the IP editor who placed all these tags on the page. If you want to help, fine, but don't lecture me about choices. I can either fix the issues or ignore these tags, but the problems aren't going to get any better if I choose the latter.epicgenius(talk)21:24, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- I won't "lecture you" if you stop using ridiculous rhetoric like "I will have no choice". If the tags are inappropriate, remove them, if not, fix them.Beyond My Ken(talk)21:49, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- I am in the process of doing that. I have also struck out the "no choice" wording that you object to so strongly.epicgenius(talk)22:00, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- I won't "lecture you" if you stop using ridiculous rhetoric like "I will have no choice". If the tags are inappropriate, remove them, if not, fix them.Beyond My Ken(talk)21:49, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- Well, it's either me or the IP editor who placed all these tags on the page. If you want to help, fine, but don't lecture me about choices. I can either fix the issues or ignore these tags, but the problems aren't going to get any better if I choose the latter.epicgenius(talk)21:24, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Discussion of interest to this project: Template:NYC year nav
Template:NYC year navhas beennominated for deletion.You are invited to comment on the discussion atthe template's entry on the Templates for discussion page.--M2545(talk)13:32, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
The AfD for this article was closed as a redirect and selective merge toCommunity boards of the Bronx.The redirect has been done, but no material has been merged. Can someone familiar with the subject please do so?Beyond My Ken(talk)23:19, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Community Districts listing in the Infobox?
Riverdale | |
|---|---|
| Country |  United States |
| State |  New York |
| City |  New York City |
| Borough |  The Bronx |
| Community District | 8 |
Riverdale | |
|---|---|
| Country | United States |
| State | New York |
| City | New York City |
| Borough | Bronx |
I'm curious to know if there has been a discussion on including the Community District / Community Board in the various NYC neighborhood infoboxes?
Using theRiverdale, Bronxneighborhood as an example:
(only the relevant part of the infobox is shown)
GAN: William Bliss Baker
William Bliss Bakerhas been nominated as a possibleGood article.You are invited to review the article based on thegood article criteriaby usingthese instructions.You can start the review process by following the "start review" link found near the top of thearticle's talk page.Thanks for your time! ···Nhật bổn nhương·Đầu cảo·Talk to Nihonjoe·Join WP Japan!00:06, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Still looking for help with this nomination. If you have a few minutes, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! ···Nhật bổn nhương·Đầu cảo·Talk to Nihonjoe·Join WP Japan!17:35, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
TFAR notice
Members of this WikiProject might be interested inWikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Lady Gaga.Snuggums(talk/edits)00:44, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Ex-Bloomingdale's Warehouse and NYCHA
The formerBloomingdale'sWarehouse on 49th Avenue in Long Island City is currently an office owned by theNew York City Housing Authority,as you'd be able to see if you zoom in on the picture below, although it's not a public housing project. ---------User:DanTD(talk)04:39, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
List of deputy mayors of New York City
Could someone please create a full list of all the deputy mayors of New York City? There is a small section atMayor of New York City,but I am unable to find a full list. By the way,Richard Menschel's wife was a deputy mayor and she may be sufficiently notable to have her own article.Zigzig20s(talk)22:39, 16 February 2018 (UTC)