Talk:Peter MacKay

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Someone please revert this article. I have never seen such vandalism on any wiki, especially sustained for so long.99.229.78.116(talk)00:10, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I find it deeply amusing that I learned who won the PC leadership race from Wikipedia. I do so love wikis... --Stephen Gilbert02:05 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Sources?

This article seems to have very few sources, which is especially troubling for the section on the merging parties controversy. I'm not sure what the procedure is for marking a page as improperly sourced, but I think it should be done. 216.144.126.149(talk)02:36, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Request for Comments onTalk:Lisa Michelle Merrithew

...about the current status of her relationship with MacKay.Samaritan05:32, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

April 6 edits

There was a bunch of unsubstantiated stuff in today's edits -- speculation that he was pro-merger early on even though he made no public statements in favour of it, etc. Also, today's edits badly needed copyediting to correct spelling and grammatical errors. I don't mean to offend anyone, I just want to help keep the place tidy and enyclopedic.Kevintoronto21:51, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Conservative Party v. Progressive Canadian Party

As much as I hated the Progressive Conservative Party merging with the Canadian Alliance into the new Conservative Party, that is what it did. The Progressive Canadian Party was founded by some Progressive Conservatives who didn't like the merger, but that doesn't make the Prog Cdn Party the "re-foundation" of the Prog Cons Party.Ground Zero|t18:41, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

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- I guarantee you, if you have to go through what I went through for the 'Harper Photo' just to satisfy the concerns of seemingly skittish individuals (who, however, still had entirely good intentions), you've got a slog ahead of you.John Hawke04:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Photo

This current photo (8 March 10) is dreadful. I don't even like the guy, but he deserves a better photo.—Precedingunsignedcomment added by174.18.75.215(talk)20:47, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Theonlyedge20:39, 27 January 2006 (UTC)Can someone get a better picture of Mackay? It looks like its 0.00001 megabytes

Done, took the House of Commons official photo.Petro 5612:02, 7 February 2006 (UTC)Petro_56

The current phone is still pretty bad. There must be a better one out there.—Precedingunsignedcomment added by174.115.246.224(talk)00:59, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

MacKay as a Blue Tory?

I'm sorry, but this is one thing I really, really have to question. Having actually met and talked with the man, I can say that some of his comments about social programs and helping the poor in Atlantic Canada are almost socialist in their attitudes towards the role of government - typical of many Red Tories. While his stances on some issues may not be as clear cut as most Red Tories, to call him a Blue would be an exaggeration and cherry picking some of his statements over others.

Monty72500:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

The Honourable Peter MacKay is aRed Tory.He was the leader of the (Red Tory) PC Party prior to the merger with the (Blue Tory) Reform/Alliance Party. He self-identifies and is always described in the media as a Red Tory. He has never been described as a Blue Tory. As there was no citation describing MacKay as a Blue Tory, I have corrected this error, and provided a source.Ontario Teacher BFA BEd(talk)03:54, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

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Deputy Leader of the Conservatives

Is MacKaystillthe deputy leader?GoodDay22:32, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Does that position belong toLawrence Cannon,now?GoodDay(talk)18:38, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

HELLO -- Shall I assumenobodyis certain?GoodDay(talk)14:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

“Contradiction During Crisis”

This section is not important enough to put on its own, let alone mention at all. This might have been interesting during the “crisis” but no longer. The incident did not lead to any major or minor development, no apology or withdrawal of remarks, nor was MacKay ejected from his party. The MacKay opinion on parliamentary procedure is not important nor enlightening to the crisis debate.

“Conscientious Objectors” to “Wars Not Sanctioned by United Nations”

Greetings user 142.68.224.209

You accompanied your speedy deletion of my edit with the word “vandalism.” In our coming discussion, you might find it helpful to first learn more about Wikipedia protocol at these two links:

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Infobox picture

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  Option 2

Well, since an anonymous user seems to want to start an edit war with me, I figure we might as well solve this problem here.

I say we useOption 1.It's a bit more recent, a larger, beter quality picture, and, as opposed to the second option, it shows the front of his face, as opposed to just one side. Thoughts?Tholden28(talk)12:55, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

The original picture is much more descriptive, far better quality (as far as size go, look at the original by the DoD), and the subject looks much better on it. It looks like far-left Liberal supporter User:Tholden took a picture and wanted to override whetever was there before in order to promote himself and make MacKay look bad. In any case, their was no issue whatsoever with the original picture, and the replacement serves no purpose.70.48.78.19(talk)13:40, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Look, personally, I don't think the picture makes MacKay look bad. Not at all. In fact, I think that the picture looks better than the DoD one, simply because it actually shows his face. Although I may not be Conservative, I'm certainly not trying to make MacKay look bad.Tholden28(talk)13:47, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

• Option 1It is the only "front view" picture of him I have ever seen without his mouth wide open (includes pictures from newspapers too). I lived in Central Nova and voted for him in the last election, so the "only Liberals want that one" argument is invalid. --kelapstick^(bainuu)13:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
• Option 1,I see no need to use an image of the side of his face, when one of his face is available.117Avenue(talk)04:20, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
• Option 2,A completely subjective opinion. Though the new one shows more of his face, my first thought was that it has kind of a "deer in the headlights" look to it. That being said, I'm going to assume that Tholden28 honestly thought it was a better picture.I won't insult anybody by throwing the obvious TLA in their face--Ron Ritzman(talk)12:46, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
  • While I appreciate Ron's desire not to use the "deer in the headlights" look, that is just how Peter MacKay rolls when it comes to pictures. It is almost impossible to find a picture of him without that look (it's been a running joke at our house for years). Presentingexhibit A,exhibit B,exhibit C,andexhibit D.Those are four of the first six search results fromThe Chronicle Herald(the largest newspaper in his home province). Also noteexhibit EandFfrom commons (thank goodness we don't have to use F in the infobox any more). --kelapstick^(bainuu)22:11, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

File:The Honourable Peter MacKay Photo 2015.jpg The most recent photo of the Honourable Peter MacKay is located on the PMO website.Can someone please update the infobox picture to this photo?Ontario Teacher BFA BEd(talk)03:56, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure that's usable.Thisis the copyright info for the site and it's got some restrictions. Do you know what the status of that image is?Ravensfire(talk)14:16, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

I have updated the photo. The image is in thepublic domainas it comes from a government website.Ontario Teacher BFA BEd(talk)23:13, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

I've reverted this for potentially being a copyright violation. Canada does not have the same copyright laws in respect to government sources as the US. This work is definitely not public domain[1]as Ontario Teacher claims, but it may qualify under a free license. --Patar knight-^chat/_{contributions}01:17, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Concur - saying it's public domain without offering any solid evidence when there is solid evidence to the contrary and expecting that to stick is not acceptable.Ravensfire(talk)14:05, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Non-commercial reproduction is completely authorized:

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http://pm.gc.ca/eng/important-notices#Copyright Ontario Teacher BFA BEd(talk)03:29, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

I didn't take too close a look at the license because you originally claimed it was under public domain, which is obviously wrong. Being just available for non-commercial reproduction does not mean that it is eligible for inclusion on Wikipedia, seespeedy deletion criteria F3.I've removed it from the article again, please do not re-add it. ----Patar knight-^chat/_{contributions}04:00, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Remember that Wikipedia's license allows others to gather articles and sell them as a book, so images that are only free for non-commercial purposes aren't accepted here. With very few exceptions, images of a living person must be totally free as it's always possible someone could take a picture and upload it under an acceptable license.Ravensfire(talk)15:27, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

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Where are the actual political views?

Having just read a contribution by this person to a paper for theHenry Jackson SocietyI came this WP article expecting to see some material on the lawmaker's outlook. Almost nothing here. I feel this is an oversight and I'd like to add a section that gives an overview.Erasmus Sydney(talk)01:28, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

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Does Peter MacKay speak French?

This question will be asked. This topic (his ability to speak French) should be included in the article.

Yes, he speaks french very fluently.— Precedingunsignedcomment added by69.7.244.32(talk)03:34, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Very Old Photo

Can someone update this?— Precedingunsignedcomment added by69.7.244.32(talk)03:37, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Height?

Why is this guy's height listed? Seems like it is out of place to include that for a political person.SchizoidNightmares(talk)04:40, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Going to go ahead and remove it—unless someone objects, can provide a reason, and source for the inclusion.SchizoidNightmares(talk)12:31, 28 August 2020 (UTC)