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* [[:Category:British universities coats of arms]] to [[:Category:Coats of arms of universities in the United Kingdom]] – C2Cper subcategories of {{Cat|Coats of arms of universities by country}} plus {{Cat|Universities in the United Kingdom}}[[User:Good Olfactory|Good Ol’factory]] <sup>[[User talk:Good Olfactory|(talk)]]</sup> 03:48, 9 July 2021 (UTC) |
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* [[:Category:Papal coat of arms]] to [[:Category:Papal coats of arms]] – C2A, pluralize [[User:Good Olfactory|Good Ol’factory]] <sup>[[User talk:Good Olfactory|(talk)]]</sup> 03:46, 9 July 2021 (UTC) |
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* [[:Category:Arab people in British Palestine]] to [[:Category:Arab people in Mandatory Palestine]] – C2D per [[Mandatory Palestine]]/{{Cat|Mandatory Palestine}}/{{cat|Mandatory Palestine people}} [[User:Good Olfactory|Good Ol’factory]] <sup>[[User talk:Good Olfactory|(talk)]]</sup> 03:27, 9 July 2021 (UTC) |
* [[:Category:Arab people in British Palestine]] to [[:Category:Arab people in Mandatory Palestine]] – C2D per [[Mandatory Palestine]]/{{Cat|Mandatory Palestine}}/{{cat|Mandatory Palestine people}} [[User:Good Olfactory|Good Ol’factory]] <sup>[[User talk:Good Olfactory|(talk)]]</sup> 03:27, 9 July 2021 (UTC) |
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Speedy renamingorspeedy mergingof categories may be requestedonlyif they meet aspeedy criterion,for exampleWP:C2D(consistency with main article's name) orWP:C2C(consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determinewhichspeedy criterionapplies
- Tag categorywith
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
- List requestalong withspeedy criteriareason under "Current requests"below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria,even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points but only at a full discussion atWP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify forspeedy deletion(perWikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion,e.g. "patent nonsense", "recreation" ) can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as{{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with{{db-empty}}.Renaming underC2Ecan also be processed instantly as it is a variation onG7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose,(the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead you should edit the sectionWP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging hereor the pageWP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here(WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to searchWP:CFDSto find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion but, unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be un-tagged and de-listed after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and{{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
.If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested atWP:Categories for discussion(CfD) in accordance withits instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins whoprocess the Speedy page.If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging arestrictlylimited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
- Correction of spelling errors andcapitalization fixes.Differences betweenBritish and American spelling(e.g.Harbours → Harbors) arenotconsidered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate underC2C.If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens intoen dashesorvice versa(e.g.Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missingconjunction(e.g.Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This does not include changing thepluralityof a noun when such the distinction betweentopic and set categoriesis uncertain.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
- Expanding abbreviated country names(e.g.U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguationfixes from an unqualified name (e.g.Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state)orCategory:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y","x of y",or"x in y"categorization conventions specified atWikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g.Category:Transportation in the United StatesandCategory:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
- Renaming atopic categoryto match its eponymous page (e.g.Category:The BeatlesandThe Beatles).
- This appliesonlyif the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous(so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is theprimary topicof its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial,either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines atWP:CATNAME,or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in ano consensusresult, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename aset categoryin the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed perWP:C2D,consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous article
- This criterion applies if the category containsonlyan eponymous article, list or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions atWikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions,in the section "If the decision is toRename,Merge,orDelete";to list it for the bots, use theSpeedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
- A nomination tomergeorrename,brought forward as a fullCfD,may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2,do not list it here.Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies,do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at thebeginningof the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.) If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
*REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category with:{{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 00:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are144open requests(. )
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Current requests
Please add new requests at the top of the list.
- Category:British universities coats of armstoCategory:Coats of arms of universities in the United Kingdom– C2C per subcategories of‹ThetemplateCatis beingconsidered for merging.›Category:Coats of arms of universities by countryplus‹ThetemplateCatis beingconsidered for merging.›Category:Universities in the United KingdomGood Ol’factory(talk)03:48, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Papal coat of armstoCategory:Papal coats of arms– C2A, pluralizeGood Ol’factory(talk)03:46, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Arab people in British PalestinetoCategory:Arab people in Mandatory Palestine– C2D perMandatory Palestine/‹ThetemplateCatis beingconsidered for merging.›Category:Mandatory Palestine/‹ThetemplateCatis beingconsidered for merging.›Category:Mandatory Palestine peopleGood Ol’factory(talk)03:27, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:St. Boniface, WinnipegtoCategory:Saint Boniface, Winnipeg– C2D perSaint Boniface, Winnipeg.2001:569:74D2:A800:9D98:7A60:55DD:F9DF(talk)01:43, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Atelier 17, alumnitoCategory:Atelier 17 alumni– C2A, no reason for a commaGood Ol’factory(talk)01:28, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:UrvatoCategory:Urva (genus)– C2D perUrva (genus)Good Ol’factory(talk)01:06, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Legislative Districts in the Maryland House of DelegatestoCategory:Maryland House of Delegates districts– C2C: Consistency with others inCategory:State legislative districts of the United StatesElli(talk|contribs)20:50, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Al Mabarra FC playerstoCategory:Al Mabarra Club players– C2D.Nehme149918:20, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:DPHB playerstoCategory:AS DPHB players– C2D.Nehme149918:19, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Perak FA playerstoCategory:Perak F.C. players– C2D.Nehme149918:11, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:NK Maribor Tabor playerstoCategory:ŽNK MB Tabor players– WP:C2D,ŽNK MB TaborSnowflake91(talk)16:20, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Guizhou Hengfeng F.C.toCategory:Guizhou F.C.-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.Footwiks(talk)05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Guizhou Hengfeng F.C. playerstoCategory:Guizhou F.C. players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.Footwiks(talk)05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Guizhou Hengfeng F.C. managerstoCategory:Guizhou F.C. managers-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.Footwiks(talk)05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Beijing BSU F.C. playerstoCategory:Beijing Sport University F.C. players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.Footwiks(talk)05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Heilongjiang Lava Spring F.C.toCategory:Heilongjiang Ice City F.C.-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.Footwiks(talk)05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Heilongjiang Lava Spring F.C. playerstoCategory:Heilongjiang Ice City F.C. players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.Footwiks(talk)05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Heilongjiang Lava Spring F.C. managerstoCategory:Heilongjiang Ice City F.C. managers-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.Footwiks(talk)05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Zhejiang Greentown F.C.toCategory:Zhejiang Professional F.C.-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.Footwiks(talk)05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Zhejiang Greentown F.C. playerstoCategory:Zhejiang Professional F.C. players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.Footwiks(talk)05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Zhejiang Greentown F.C. managerstoCategory:Zhejiang Professional F.C. managers-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.Footwiks(talk)05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Zhejiang Greentown F.C. seasonstoCategory:Zhejiang Professional F.C. seasons-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.Footwiks(talk)05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Football (soccer) in NiuetoCategory:Soccer in Niue– C2D perSoccer in NiueGood Ol’factory(talk)04:23, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Football competitions in NiuetoCategory:Soccer competitions in Niue
- Category:Football leagues in NiuetoCategory:Soccer leagues in Niue
- Category:Niue national football teamtoCategory:Niue national soccer team(also C2D perNiue national soccer team)
- Category:Football venues in NiuetoCategory:Soccer venues in Niue
- Category:X-Ray Specs songstoCategory:X-Ray Spex songs- C2D, perX-Ray SpexHiddenstranger(talk)03:09, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:People from St. Vital, ManitobatoCategory:People from St. Vital, Winnipeg– C2D perSt. Vital, Winnipeg/‹ThetemplateCatis beingconsidered for merging.›Category:St. Vital, WinnipegGood Ol’factory(talk)01:45, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Member of All India Yadav MahasabhatoCategory:Members of the All-India Yadav Mahasabha– C2A, pluralize and adding "the"Good Ol’factory(talk)01:04, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Member of Patriarchal Congregation of BzommartoCategory:Members of the Patriarchal Congregation of Bzommar– C2A, pluralize and adding "the"Good Ol’factory(talk)01:03, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Member of All-China Sports FederationtoCategory:Members of the All-China Sports Federation– C2A, pluralize and adding "the"Good Ol’factory(talk)01:01, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Nominated Member of Puducherry Legislative AssemblytoCategory:Nominated members of the Puducherry Legislative Assembly– C2A, pluralize, capitalization, and adding "the" per‹ThetemplateCatis beingconsidered for merging.›Category:Members of the Puducherry Legislative Assembly(on caps issue, cf‹ThetemplateCatis beingconsidered for merging.›Category:Nominated members of the Lok Sabha,‹ThetemplateCatis beingconsidered for merging.›Category:Nominated members of the Rajya Sabha)Good Ol’factory(talk)00:58, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Member of German Burschenschaftto
Category:Members of German BurschenschaftCategory:Members of the German Burschenschaft– C2A, pluralizeGood Ol’factory(talk)00:47, 8 July 2021 (UTC)- Good Ol’factory,I suggestCategory:Members of the German Burschenschaft.TSventon(talk)01:58, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- I am fine with that; I wondered if it needed a "the".Good Ol’factory(talk)02:21, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Good Ol’factory,I suggestCategory:Members of the German Burschenschaft.TSventon(talk)01:58, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Orders following the Benedictine RuletoCategory:Orders following the Rule of Saint Benedict– C2D perRule of Saint BenedictGood Ol’factory(talk)00:27, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Paintings by Christopher WilliamstoCategory:Paintings by Christopher Williams (Welsh artist)– C2D perChristopher Williams (Welsh artist)Good Ol’factory(talk)23:40, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:People educated at De La Salle College, Mangere EasttoCategory:People educated at De La Salle College, Māngere East– C2D, perMāngere East.Grutness...wha?16:32, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Viettel Football ClubtoCategory:Viettel FC-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiksFootwiks(talk)15:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Viettel Football Club managerstoCategory:Viettel FC managers-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiksFootwiks(talk)15:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Viettel F.C. playerstoCategory:Viettel FC players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiksFootwiks(talk)15:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Haiphong Football ClubtoCategory:Haiphong FC-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiksFootwiks(talk)15:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Haiphong Football Club managerstoCategory:Haiphong FC managers-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiksFootwiks(talk)15:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Hai Phong F.C. playerstoCategory:Haiphong FC players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiksFootwiks(talk)15:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Đồng Tháp F.C. playerstoCategory:Dong Thap FC players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiksFootwiks(talk)15:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Kingdom of Naples (1806-1815)toCategory:Kingdom of Naples (Napoleonic)– C2D perKingdom of Naples (Napoleonic)Good Ol’factory(talk)02:15, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Karate practitioners by competitiontoCategory:Karateka by competition– C2C per‹ThetemplateCatis beingconsidered for merging.›Category:Karatekaand subcategoriesGood Ol’factory(talk)02:08, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Supreme CommandertoCategory:Supreme Commander (video game)– C2D perSupreme Commander (video game)Good Ol’factory(talk)01:57, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Prosecutors of the Ukrainian SSRtoCategory:Prosecutors of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic– C2BGood Ol’factory(talk)01:55, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:General Prosecutors of AzerbaijantoCategory:Prosecutors General of Azerbaijan– C2D perList of Prosecutors General of AzerbaijanGood Ol’factory(talk)01:54, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Prosecutors of the Azerbaijan SSRtoCategory:Prosecutors of the Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic– C2BGood Ol’factory(talk)01:52, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Mount St. Joseph University athletestoCategory:Mount St. Joseph Lions athletes–WP:C2C;the standard for individual school categories within‹ThetemplateCategory linkis beingconsidered for merging.›Category:College athletes in the United States by teamis "[Athletic brand name] [school nickname] athletes". Also, the category for the MSJ athletic program is at‹ThetemplateCategory linkis beingconsidered for merging.›Category:Mount St. Joseph Lions.—Dale Arnett(talk)00:06, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Xuan Thanh Sai Gon F.C. playerstoCategory:Xuan Thanh Saigon Cement FC players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiks(talk)17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Thanh Hóa F.C. playerstoCategory:Thanh Hóa FC players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiks(talk)17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Than Quảng Ninh F.C. playerstoCategory:Than Quang Ninh FC players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiks(talk)17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Sanna Khanh Hoa F.C. playerstoCategory:Khanh Hoa FC players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiks(talk)17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Quảng Nam F.C. playerstoCategory:Quang Nam FC players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiks(talk)17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Navibank Saigon F.C. playerstoCategory:Navibank Sài Gòn FC players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiks(talk)17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:CLB Long An playerstoCategory:Long An FC players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiks(talk)17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Lam Dong F.C. playerstoCategory:Lam Dong FC players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiks(talk)17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Khatoco Khánh Hòa F.C. playerstoCategory:Khatoco Khánh Hòa FC players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiks(talk)17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Hòa Phát Hà Nội F.C. playerstoCategory:Hòa Phát Hà Nội FC players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.FootwiksFootwiks(talk)17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Đồng Nai F.C. playerstoCategory:Dong Nai FC players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.Footwiks(talk)Footwiks(talk)17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:CLB An Giang playerstoCategory:An Giang FC players-WP:C2D,consistency with main article's name.Footwiks(talk)Footwiks(talk)17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
Opposed requests
- Category:TU Dresden facultytoCategory:Dresden University of Technology faculty– C2D.Rathfelder(talk)19:40, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:TU Dresden alumnitoCategory:Dresden University of Technology alumni– C2D.Rathfelder(talk)19:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:TU DresdentoCategory:Dresden University of Technology– C2D.Rathfelder(talk)19:37, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Opposethese three; instead, revert undiscussed page move byStörm(talk·contribs) against earlier RM atTalk:Dresden University of Technology.–FayenaticLondon19:45, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Happy to park these until we can agree the title of the article.Rathfelder(talk)10:05, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Opposethese three; instead, revert undiscussed page move byStörm(talk·contribs) against earlier RM atTalk:Dresden University of Technology.–FayenaticLondon19:45, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
- Category:Grand VizierstoCategory:Grand viziers– C2A/C2D perGrand vizierGood Ol’factory(talk)07:56, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- This violates C2C with subcategories, ultimately due to inconsistencies in article space, e.g.List of Safavid Grand Viziers.Marcocapelle(talk)05:50, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Grand Viziers of the Safavid EmpiretoCategory:Grand viziers of the Safavid Empireafter movingList of Safavid Grand VizierstoList of Safavid grand viziersperWP:MOSCAPS
- Category:Grand Viziers of the Mughal EmpiretoCategory:Grand viziers of the Mughal Empireafter movingList of Mughal Grand VizierstoList of Mughal grand viziersperWP:MOSCAPS
- @Ymblanter:can we relist the three categories in conjunction when the (imho uncontroversial) article moves aren't reverted within say a week?Marcocapelle(talk)18:55, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I think so.--Ymblanter(talk)18:59, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter:can we relist the three categories in conjunction when the (imho uncontroversial) article moves aren't reverted within say a week?Marcocapelle(talk)18:55, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:ElistoCategory:Elis (regional unit)– C2D:Category:Ancient ElismatchesAncient Elis.It seems this category would be less ambiguous matching the article nameElis (regional unit).Gjs238(talk)04:23, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedypingingGjs238.I don't think disambiguation is needed asCategory:Ancient Elisis a sub category ofCategory:History of Elisand thus ofCategory:Elis.IfCategory:Eliswere renamed its subcategories should be renamed as well.TSventon(talk)12:11, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Gjs238have you considered a RM or bold move of the articleElis (regional unit)over the current redirectElis?–FayenaticLondon20:31, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Fayenatic londonI think moving the article is a cleaner solution than renaming the category. Thank you for the suggestion!Gjs238(talk)03:39, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Requested move is atTalk:Elis (regional unit)#Requested move 4 July 2021.TSventon(talk)09:39, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- Fayenatic londonI think moving the article is a cleaner solution than renaming the category. Thank you for the suggestion!Gjs238(talk)03:39, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Gjs238have you considered a RM or bold move of the articleElis (regional unit)over the current redirectElis?–FayenaticLondon20:31, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedypingingGjs238.I don't think disambiguation is needed asCategory:Ancient Elisis a sub category ofCategory:History of Elisand thus ofCategory:Elis.IfCategory:Eliswere renamed its subcategories should be renamed as well.TSventon(talk)12:11, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Geography of South GeorgiatoCategory:Geography of South Georgia (island)– C2D perSouth Georgia (island)Good Ol’factory(talk)05:04, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Landforms of South GeorgiatoCategory:Landforms of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Bodies of water of South GeorgiatoCategory:Bodies of water of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Bays of South GeorgiatoCategory:Bays of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Coves of South GeorgiatoCategory:Coves of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Glaciers of South GeorgiatoCategory:Glaciers of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Lakes of South GeorgiatoCategory:Lakes of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Beaches of South GeorgiatoCategory:Beaches of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Headlands of South GeorgiatoCategory:Headlands of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Islands of South GeorgiatoCategory:Islands of South Georgia (island)(not sure if this one works; can something be an island of an island? – I think so)
- @Good Olfactory:sometimes I think we take principles too far… –FayenaticLondon21:00, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london:,I am open to other options. As it stands, I'm afraid that there is a decent chance of it being misinterpreted as islands in the south part of the U.S. state of Georgia.Good Ol’factory(talk)23:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- What aboutCategory:Islands of South Georgia (southern Atlantic)?Marcocapelle(talk)05:07, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- The main article's Infobox names the archipelago as South Georgia group, so I suggest we useCategory:Islands of the South Georgia group.–FayenaticLondon17:06, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable to me.Marcocapelle(talk)21:32, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Me too. This probably requires a full.Good Ol’factory(talk)00:44, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- For this whole "South Georgia" category list, or should most go ahead as nominated? The Rock formations category also includes locations not on the main island, e.g.Theodor Rock.That raises the question for the intermediate parentCategory:Landforms of South Georgia,andCategory:Geography of South Georgia.The rest of the listed categories probably cover just the island, and some say so explicitly e.g. Glaciers/ Mountains and hills. –FayenaticLondon08:39, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- It may make sense to take all of them to CfD. Note thatCategory:Geography of South Georgiais parented to the non-existingCategory:South Georgia (island),there aren't apparently any other categories that might cause C2C issues in a full discussion.Marcocapelle(talk)05:25, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- For this whole "South Georgia" category list, or should most go ahead as nominated? The Rock formations category also includes locations not on the main island, e.g.Theodor Rock.That raises the question for the intermediate parentCategory:Landforms of South Georgia,andCategory:Geography of South Georgia.The rest of the listed categories probably cover just the island, and some say so explicitly e.g. Glaciers/ Mountains and hills. –FayenaticLondon08:39, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Me too. This probably requires a full.Good Ol’factory(talk)00:44, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable to me.Marcocapelle(talk)21:32, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- The main article's Infobox names the archipelago as South Georgia group, so I suggest we useCategory:Islands of the South Georgia group.–FayenaticLondon17:06, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- What aboutCategory:Islands of South Georgia (southern Atlantic)?Marcocapelle(talk)05:07, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london:,I am open to other options. As it stands, I'm afraid that there is a decent chance of it being misinterpreted as islands in the south part of the U.S. state of Georgia.Good Ol’factory(talk)23:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Good Olfactory:sometimes I think we take principles too far… –FayenaticLondon21:00, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Mountain passes of South GeorgiatoCategory:Mountain passes of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Mountains and hills of South GeorgiatoCategory:Mountains and hills of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Rock formations of South GeorgiatoCategory:Rock formations of South Georgia (island)
- Opposed, see above. –FayenaticLondon08:39, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Ports and harbours of South GeorgiatoCategory:Ports and harbours of South Georgia (island)
- Let's try this differently. I have nominatedCategory:Islands of South Georgiafor merging atWikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_May_21#Category:Islands_of_South_Georgia.Articles inCategory:Rock formations of South Georgiaabout island rocks should be moved toCategory:Rock formations of South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands.When all that is done, the remainder can be speedied.Marcocapelle(talk)08:33, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
- Category:Honey Bunny Film SeriestoCategory:Honey Bunny film series– C2A, capitalizationGood Ol’factory(talk)00:50, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Would most likely be "(film series)" as that is the standard dab, but this category should really be deleted. There is only 1 film and even in the{{Honey Bunny Ka Jholmaal}}template no additional films listed. --Gonnym(talk)00:55, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Feel free to nominate it for a full.Good Ol’factory(talk)01:02, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Now nominatedhere.–FayenaticLondon20:55, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Feel free to nominate it for a full.Good Ol’factory(talk)01:02, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Would most likely be "(film series)" as that is the standard dab, but this category should really be deleted. There is only 1 film and even in the{{Honey Bunny Ka Jholmaal}}template no additional films listed. --Gonnym(talk)00:55, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Chinese Communist Party Committee SecretariestoCategory:Chinese Communist Party committee secretaries– C2A, capitalization perWP:JOBTITLES;C2C for the subcategories belowGood Ol’factory(talk)02:04, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Communist Party of China Committee Secretaries of Rehe ProvincetoCategory:Chinese Communist Party committee secretaries of Rehe Province
- Category:Communist Party Secretaries of Xi'antoCategory:Chinese Communist Party committee secretaries of Xi'an
- Comment@Good Olfactory:for concision I would suggestCategory:Communist Party secretaries of Foofor local-level categories. The full title is a bit cumbersome, and when the name of a location is present the wordsChineseandcommitteecan be implied when one talks of aparty secretary.Amain articlelink or category explanation could help if you find that the scope is not obvious enough.Place Clichy(talk)14:30, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think the more concise names are eligible for speedying. If we speedily rename the head categories I can follow-up on the others with a full discussion.Good Ol’factory(talk)00:31, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Good Olfactory:I would approve that: no objection to rename the head categories per C2D (as you may have noticed, I found identically-named main articles) while fixing capitalization and plural, but submit the local categories to full discussion to a less redundant name.Place Clichy(talk)04:42, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think the more concise names are eligible for speedying. If we speedily rename the head categories I can follow-up on the others with a full discussion.Good Ol’factory(talk)00:31, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment@Good Olfactory:for concision I would suggestCategory:Communist Party secretaries of Foofor local-level categories. The full title is a bit cumbersome, and when the name of a location is present the wordsChineseandcommitteecan be implied when one talks of aparty secretary.Amain articlelink or category explanation could help if you find that the scope is not obvious enough.Place Clichy(talk)14:30, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Chinese Communist Party Deputy Committee SecretariestoCategory:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries– C2A, capitaliation perWP:JOBTITLES;C2C for the subcategories belowGood Ol’factory(talk)02:01, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Deputy Party Secretaries of SichuantoCategory:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Sichuan
- Category:Deputy Communist Party Secretaries of HebeitoCategory:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Hebei
- Category:Deputy Communist Party Secretaries of JiangsutoCategory:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Jiangsu
- Category:Deputy Communist Party Secretaries of JiangxitoCategory:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Jiangxi
- Category:Deputy Party Secretaries of ShaanxitoCategory:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Shaanxi
- Category:Deputy Party Secretaries of ShanxitoCategory:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Shanxi
- Category:Deputy Party Secretaries of YunnantoCategory:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Yunnan
- Category:Communist Party of China Deputy Committee Secretaries of ZhejiangtoCategory:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Zhejian
- Comment:for concision I would suggestCategory:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Foofor province-level categories, as above.Place Clichy(talk)14:30, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment:the usual shorter title is "Deputy Party Secretary", without "Communist" (e.g. usage within the articlesChinese Communist Party Deputy Committee Secretary,Chinese_Communist_Party_Committee_Secretary#Deputy_Party_Committee_Secretary,Jin Yinhuan), so I think the concise plural should be "Deputy party secretaries of Foo". –FayenaticLondon21:28, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- It is correct that, in context, in China or any other communist system, the often capitalized terms of "the Party" and "the Party Secretary" will unambiguously refer to the Communist Party. After all, these head articles were only recentlyrenamedfrom simply(Deputy) Party Committee Secretary.However category names are supposed to be clearly understood without too many elements of context, that's why I thought that "Communist(deputy) party secretaries of (Shanghai)"is both easily understandable and concise enough, without being too ambiguous, e.g. with KMT holders of a similar function pre-1949.Place Clichy(talk)21:53, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- I have processed the head categories and moved the rest here as Opposed. –FayenaticLondon22:38, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Moved all to a full discussionhere.Good Ol’factory(talk)01:22, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- I have processed the head categories and moved the rest here as Opposed. –FayenaticLondon22:38, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- It is correct that, in context, in China or any other communist system, the often capitalized terms of "the Party" and "the Party Secretary" will unambiguously refer to the Communist Party. After all, these head articles were only recentlyrenamedfrom simply(Deputy) Party Committee Secretary.However category names are supposed to be clearly understood without too many elements of context, that's why I thought that "Communist(deputy) party secretaries of (Shanghai)"is both easily understandable and concise enough, without being too ambiguous, e.g. with KMT holders of a similar function pre-1949.Place Clichy(talk)21:53, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment:the usual shorter title is "Deputy Party Secretary", without "Communist" (e.g. usage within the articlesChinese Communist Party Deputy Committee Secretary,Chinese_Communist_Party_Committee_Secretary#Deputy_Party_Committee_Secretary,Jin Yinhuan), so I think the concise plural should be "Deputy party secretaries of Foo". –FayenaticLondon21:28, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment:for concision I would suggestCategory:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Foofor province-level categories, as above.Place Clichy(talk)14:30, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Shia Muslim scholarstoCategory:Shia Muslim Islamic scholars,C2D perList of Shia Muslim Islamic scholars.Marcocapelle(talk)12:54, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy.Moved without discussionless than a month ago, so C2D does not apply. Also,MuslimandIslamicis uselessly redundant.Place Clichy(talk)14:03, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedyI agree Muslim and Islamic are not both necessary, because Islamic covers the fact that they are Muslim, however I would support renaming to 'Shia Islamic Scholars' as Muslim scholars includes both Muslims who have studied secular courses and Ulama, whereas Islamic scholars refers to Ulama.Amirahtalk22:23, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Madonna (entertainer)toCategory:Madonna–C2D;consistency with main article's name. The singer was established as the primary topicin July 2020 after a requested moveand relevant categories weren't renamed accordingly.Sean Stephens(talk)12:15, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedyas an explicit exception toWP:C2D.Quoting: "
This [criterion] appliesonlyif the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) isunambiguous(so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is theprimary topicof its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator)
."This may be proposed and discussed in a full CfD discussion though.Place Clichy(talk)12:55, 21 June 2021 (UTC) - Opposeas well as C2D clearly does not apply in this case. The nominator also failed to list the subcategories in which many could be considered less ambiguous but would still require a full discussion. There was a fun debate on this topic atCFD/Slast year.StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me21:37, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- See, none of this makes sense to me. If consensus deemed the singer as the primary topic, categorisation should reflect that. If we can't at the very least do that, maybe consensus was wrong.Sean Stephens(talk)00:03, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Sean Stephens:there is much sense to what you write, and you are invited to open a full discussion (atWP:CFD). People don't disagree with you, this just does not fall under the restricted cases when a longer discussion can be skipped.Place Clichy(talk)04:42, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- See, none of this makes sense to me. If consensus deemed the singer as the primary topic, categorisation should reflect that. If we can't at the very least do that, maybe consensus was wrong.Sean Stephens(talk)00:03, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedyas an explicit exception toWP:C2D.Quoting: "
Ready for deletion
CheckCategory:Empty categories awaiting deletionfor out of process deletions. In some cases, these will need to be nominated for discussion and the editor who emptied the category informed that they should follow theWP:CFDprocess.
Once the renaming has been completed, copy and paste the listing to theReady for deletionsection ofWikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Manual.