Talk:A Best 2

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Is that symbol an A?

Does the symbol stand forAyumi Hamasaki?In ictu oculi(talk)06:02, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it does,http://www.avex.jp/upload/emoji/2.gif...can that inlineAfont legally be uploaded (sourcehttp://avex.jp/ayu/index.php) from the Ayumi official website for use in first line of the album lead?In ictu oculi(talk)01:08, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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found Image:Ayumi Hamasaki A Logo.png buried in a long footnote at the bottom of artist bio...In ictu oculi(talk)23:51, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the move request was:Withdrawn;RM pulled by proposer, the special character complicates the basic "Best 2" issue too much to get consensus.In ictu oculi(talk)23:58, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A Best 2→Best 2 (Ayumi Hamasaki albums)– Special characterFile:Ayu_symbol.gif:We have Prince album "File:Prince logo.svg"atLove Symbol Album,we have Got7 albumGOT♡atGot Love,so we shouldn't really be attempting to mimic theAyumi-symbol.jpg(also here) with a bigA.Yes sure in Japanese sources and on retail sites it is listed as bigAtoo, but those same sites have "Bang kỳ あゆみ『A BEST 2』" to show that it is a Greatest Hits Vol.II by Ayumi Hamasaki, so those sources are relying on "Bang kỳ あゆみ/Ayumi Hamasaki" to provide readerWP:RECOGNIZABILITYnot the attempt at the Ayumi-symbol.gif,A Best 2will still redirect here, so everyone wins. Alternatively, if there's support for retaining theA,thenA Best 2 (Ayumi Hamasaki album)is still an improvement to the reader experience.'A' Best 2doesn't seem an improvement.In ictu oculi(talk)00:33, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose.First, this article actually covers two albums, "A Best 2: White" and "A Best 2: Black", so the proposed title is immediately a no-go. Second, assuming "A Best 2" is established in English reliable sources, it serves asnatural disambiguation,which is preferable to a parentheses. I'm not sure how established the title is in English sources; it would be nice to see that evidence put together before these RMs.--Cúchullain ^t/c 15:31, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We often use (album) for 2-part compilations, but we can use (albums) if anyone wants to make an issue of it. [done]

If "A Best 2" were established in English reliable sources we wouldn't be having this RM.In ictu oculi(talk)05:33, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

According to the article, it's not a two-part compilation, it's two different albums (A Best 2: WhiteandA Best 2: Black) released separately.

ThisEnglish-language book on Billboard hits and MusicJapanPlus's English site[1][2]has the albums listed asA BEST 2...As this form appears to be established in English, I hold to my contention that it's preferablenatural disambiguationover a parenthesis.--Cúchullain ^t/c 14:45, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If it is known (by sources) that the "A" like symbol is read as "Ayu", then the move should be to "Ayu Best 2". --MASEM(t)13:12, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. But I think that's just "Ayu simboru" in Japanese language fan blogs, we'll never find aWP:RSfor that. In any case it's not really the main issue, the issue is recognizability, which in texts is always given by "Ayumi Hamasaki" and the proliferation of otherBest 2albums perWP:SONGDAB,whether this album is simply "Ayumi Hamasaki Best 2" in some sources, or rather which if any sources pass WP:RS.In ictu oculi(talk)23:54, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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