Talk:Aston Villa F.C.

Atlanta Sojourn

In no way is it a major part of club history but it deserves at least passing mention that the team in the late 1960s during the summer off-season played several games in the USA based out of the formerAtlanta-Fulton County Stadium,the then-new home ofMajor League Baseball'sAtlanta Braves,theNational Football League'sAtlanta Falconsand the firstNorth American Soccerl League's [Atlanta Chiefs]], representing one of the first (if not the very first) appearances of high-level English Football in theSouthern United States.Whilst perhaps not an instantaneous overwhelming success, it is nonetheless an important landmark in the development ofSoccer in the United States.— Precedingunsignedcomment added by2600:1004:B1A8:CF95:0:1E:CDCB:A601(talk)16:18, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2019

Villa are the 5th most successful club in history. They were 4th until Chelsea started winning trophys. And someone has hijacked the 'most successful English clubs in history to include Spurs, which is a joke. They have won 2 League Cups in neary 30 years. No where near villa. They have started using European rounds, Runners up in Premier, etc. This is a disgrace trying to include Spurs. It is about major Trophys.AVFC1888(talk) 18:27, 11 March 2019 (UTC)AVFC1888(talk)18:27, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Not done:it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide areliable sourceif appropriate.Danski454(talk)19:38, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2019

Please change fitness coach from vacant to Jack Sharkey as specified onhttps://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/07/11/villa-in-portugal-sharkey-interview— Precedingunsignedcomment added by2.124.214.110(talk•contribs)

Question:That source calls him the "lead sports scientist". Is that the same thing as a fitness coach?NiciVampireHeart21:33, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Not done for now:nil response to above query in 48 hours.NiciVampireHeart19:26, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

UEFA 5 star stadium

How is Villa Park a 5 star category stadium while this rating system only goes up to 4??GOLDIEM J(talk)12:17, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

It used to read 4-star, which would have been true when the section was originally written before the rating system changed, which was in 2006 according toUEFA stadium categories.It went to 5-star by vandalism, or bragging, and nobody noticed. I'll remove it.

On a general note, that whole section hasn't changed significantly since 2007, is almost entirely unsourced, and doesn't really give the sort of neutral overview you'd expect in a featured article these days: too much trivia, far too much about the (then newly opened) training ground, and too little about Villa Park itself. Could do with someone with access to some decent sources giving it a going over. cheers,Struway2(talk)14:21, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2019

aston villa has one the cub 2 timesAllasandro21(talk)14:34, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Not done:it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide areliable sourceif appropriate. Please do, however, do read theClub honours "section first.Eggishorn(talk)(contrib)15:10, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2020

Add the following announcement to the 'Kit Sponsorship' section:

Beginning with the 2020–21 season, the club's primary shirt sponsor will be online car retailerCazoo[1],after the club announced the termination of the previous deal with W88.[2]82.11.230.8(talk)10:04, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Donewith the correct reference formatting.Woody(talk)16:07, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Kit Sponsor table

I've removed the kit sponsor table as it's size was overwhelming on the page and is in my opinionfar too much detail.Underthe bold, revert, discusscycle I am opening this up for aconsensusto develop here.Woody(talk)15:41, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

I think it's the right decision as due to the current trend in football many clubs will have a new shirt sponsor every season. I've removed the table in theBurnley articleas well, and replaced it with a short prose part. Maybe you can take this to thetalkpage of WikiProject Football?I'm sure many will agree with you.WA8MTWAYC(talk)10:33, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2021

Club nicknames should also include "The Villains" which is used as a playful nickname by other clubs. It should be noted that Aston Villa fans join in with this and is considered endearing and not an insult.JamesVicary92(talk)09:56, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Not done:please providereliable sourcesthat support the change you want to be made.ScottishFinnishRadish(talk)10:32, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Kit manufacturer information is incorrect in "Kit Sponsor" section.

The kit manufacturer for the current season is Castore, not Kappa. Per Wikipedia's article on the 2022-23 Premier League season. 2022–23 Premier League#Personnel and kits

If the section is not going to be updated regularly or correctly,I suggest it be removed completely,since the request to remove the predecessor (the Kit Sponsor table) seems to have been approved two years ago and there is little or no effort to make sure the information in this section is correct (much less comprehensive).173.174.238.157(talk)04:37, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 January 2023

Antonio Rodriguez isn't in AVFC staff anymore and Fred Guilebert has left the clubIrutsun(talk)16:26, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Not done:it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a"change X to Y" formatand provide areliable sourceif appropriate.Lightoil(talk)04:54, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Wrong Link

Hello. In the PLayers section at "On Loan" players, with Morgan Sanson the link that appears take us to the AS Strasbourg team, but Morgan Sanson plays in RC Strasbourg Alsace.189.217.203.50(talk)02:13, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Donethank you for pointing it out. Sorry it took so long. cheers,Struway2(talk)10:44, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Kaine Kesler-Hayden

Kaine Kesler-Hayden's loan to Huddersfield ended in January but he's not listed with the U21s. Source:https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/january/15/kesler-hayden-returns-to-villa/81.103.144.96(talk)00:09, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2023

The capacity of villa park is 42,657 not 42,749 you can see that in:https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/document/2022/07/19/40085fed-1e9e-4c33-9f14-0bcf57857da2/PL_Handbook_2022-23_DIGITAL_18.07.pdf_____ page 841.234.180.205(talk)15:59, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

DoneIzno(talk)18:20, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Kaine Hessler

Where is he in the squad? Should be back in there!Salty1984(talk)15:23, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2023

'Villa' or...'The Villa'.

2A00:23C8:2388:9101:C5A6:25F2:9921:F745(talk)06:14, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Not done:it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a"change X to Y" formatand provide areliable sourceif appropriate.AnnaMankad(talk)06:27, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2023

“Change Rob Mackenzie from Global Technical Role to Head of Recruitment”185.222.21.23(talk)22:14, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

DoneFor future edit requests, please provide a reliable source (such as[3]) alongside the request. Thanks!Dylnuge^{(Talk•Edits)}04:22, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Nickname

Aren't Aston Villa also called the Toffees?Pbergerd(talk)13:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

My bad - Everton are the Toffees.Pbergerd(talk)15:45, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 September 2023

The logo of the club is wrongPonduboi(talk)12:14, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Not done:it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a"change X to Y" formatand provide areliable sourceif appropriate.M.Bitton(talk)22:29, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Wrong Crest

I am not an experienced editor, but somebody should maybe update the crest shown for Aston Villa. It was changed before the season began I think.JimmyShirley(talk)17:45, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 January 2024

Tom-G-208(talk)02:19, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

I want to change the website section from the shop to:https://www.avfc.co.uk/.

Already doneIf you're referring to the "Website" link in the infobox, that already links to the page you've provided. Please let me know if I've misunderstood!EphemeralPerpetuals(they/them)^talk02:33, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2024

Kayne Kesler - Hayden has been recalled from his loan spell at Plymouth Argyle and is now back at his parent club as of Sat 13 January 2024.31.185.188.167(talk)22:38, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Not done:it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a"change X to Y" formatand provide areliable sourceif appropriate.M.Bitton(talk)01:06, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Addition required to second paragraph of the 'Supporters and rivalries' section on the Aston Villa F.C. page regarding inception of the '1897 Group' supporters group with cite news reference from BirminghamLive/Birmingham Mail

In 2024, following the inception of the group and a subsequent meeting with club officials, a supporters group called the "1897 Group" were allocated a section of Villa Park for a Premier League match againstA.F.C. Bournemouthto launch the group's presence at matches.84.69.62.172(talk)21:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

References

Featured Article status - comments

This article was passed as a Featured Article in 2007, when Wikipedia standards were much different. The club has also been through relegation, promotion and takeovers since then.[4]

Here are some comments:

• The Featured Article version had the history as one section with no sub-sections. This is also employed on Featured Articles for historic clubs such as Liverpool, with links at the top for history sub-sections.
• Probably concurrent with the expansion of the history section, there are now seven paragraphs there with no sources whatsoever, and many others where the source probably doesn't justify all the preceding text. The history of the club before the Internet age is probably only covered in books, which a small pool of editors have access to or can verify.

Unknown Temptation(talk)18:07, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

I've also had a look at this article, agree this needs anWP:FAreview based on content was added, some of it definitely unsourced, e.g. the quote "Crystal Palace also played in Villa's colours until the 1970s", should be sourced and looks like to me that is made up information.

Ideally, it should followWikipedia:Featured article criteriawhich point 1c. explains about it being well researched, not fully as what you said above. I don't have any books of Villa's past as I'm not from that area, so I also agree everyone should verify content on this article as well. Many featured articles are certainly better presented than this one as they were reviewed far later than 2007.Iggy(Swan) (Contribs)19:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

The Internet Archive hasbooks you can borrow for an hour at a timewith a free registration account. Among which is Goodyear & Matthews'AVFC Complete Record1992 edition which has a decent history section (the 1988 edition is used in this article but I don't think there's much difference other than the extra 4 years).

If you've never used it, you can search for books without an account, and search within a selected book without an account, but if you want to turn the pages yourself you'll need to borrow it, at which point you'll be prompted to register. cheers,Struway2(talk)10:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

1982 Intercontinental Cup Final

Suggestion: add at least a reference to the 1982 Intercontinental Cup final in Tokyo, which Villa lost 2-0 to Peñarol of Uruguay. The addition should come after the paragraph about the 1982 European Cup final. Suggested text:

The title also qualified Villa to contest theIntercontinental Cupagainst the champions of South America,Peñarol,to whom they eventuallylost 2-0.Grooobert(talk)15:25, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

New logo

WHAT IS THAT LOGO?! 🤮

Grooobert:You meant the 1982 European Cup final?Corey Warburton(talk)12:27, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Of course 1982. Corrected above. In any case, how about adding that reference?Grooobert(talk)23:52, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Cameron Archer returns to Aston Villa.

With Sheffield United being relegated at the end of the 2023/24 season, Aston Villa have re-signed Cameron Archer due to a clause in his transfer contract. Is there a reason why he is not listed under the first team? He do we edit the page to ensure it is correct?82.32.248.129(talk)19:09, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2024

78.33.153.98(talk)10:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Archie Wilson is aston villa's worst keeper in their history.

Not done:it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a"change X to Y" formatand provide areliable sourceif appropriate.PianoDan(talk)18:21, 11 July 2024 (UTC)