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and while I tried to fix the English in this article, it is so poorly translated that I don't know what the person is trying to say.Rlevse18:29, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the original text was bordering on nonsensical. That alone is not a valid reason for requesting a speedy deletion, since the text was not "unsalvageably incoherent" as the CSD criteria for nonsense says. I trimmed the confusing parts away altogether, leaving the article as a stub. If someone wants to dabble with the original, they can take a look at the page history.jni13:35, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Jni: you sort of contradict yourself. You said it was "not" unsalvageably incoherent "", yet you deleted 90% of the article as it was unintelligible. But, at least what is left finally makes sense. The original was not 'bordering on the nonsensical', it was nonsense and there is no reason to clutter up Wikipedia with an article that can not be understood in the language it appears in.Rlevse00:25, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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