Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 1991

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The text of the entry was:Did you know... that theEurovision Song Contest 1991was moved toRomefromSanremoat a late stage due to increased security concerns resulting from theGulf War?

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Tie Breaker[edit]

i) Sometime after this contest the tie-break rules changed and the first breaker became the number of countries that voted for the tied songs (and only after that, if necessary, the number of '12's (etc). This new rule would have given this contest to France (18 countries voted), and not Sweden (17 countries voted).

ii) There appears to have been some problem with Carola's performance (ultimate winner), with a dismissed suggestion that their performance should have been repeated? (Sound system problem maybe? Anyone know?)Archzog 12:06, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The technical failure[edit]

Did the sound break during Carola's first or second performance?Andreyyshore(talk)23:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ireland & UK[edit]

Ireland and the UK were tied at 10th. Shouldn't the article be changed to Ireland 11th, UK 10th, because the UK got a ten while Ireland didn't. 09:02, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

It depends entirely on what the EBU have on their official scorecard. They changed the rules several times, which is noted on the mainVoting at the Eurovision Song Contest.Wesley☮Mouse09:54, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

Passed.Riley1012(talk)19:21, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed.Please do not modify it.Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Nominator:Sims2aholic8(talk·contribs)16:52, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer:Riley1012(talk·contribs)02:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I'll complete an initial review by the end of this week. -Riley1012(talk)02:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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3a.broadness ()3b.focus ()4.neutral()5.stable()6a.free or tagged images()6b.pics relevant ()

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1. Well-written

For the first time since 1969 the contest resulted in a draw for first place...Add a comma after "1969"
Of the countries that participated in 1990 the Netherlands were the only country that failed to make a return...Add a comma after "1990", and the Netherlands should be treated as a singular noun, so change "were" to "was"
The nation had for a number of years attempted to make a return to the contest, however were prevented from doing so...Should be "was" instead of "were"
An audience was present for the second dress rehearsal in the evening of 3 May.Change "in" to "on"
...and during the live broadcast a number of technical mishaps occurred...Add a comma after "broadcast"
Unlike the majority of previous contest presenters, whom had conducted the events in English and French...Should be "who" instead of "whom"

2. Verifiable
Copyvio checkis fine- the similarities noted are just the exact song titles and artists names. The sources used in this article are reliable.AGFon offline and non-translatable sources.

Spot check
No issues: 1, 10, 14, 16, 24, 25, 29, 32, 34, 37, 40, 55 and 56 are paywalled, 63, 66, 72

3. Broad
The article is broad and focused on the coverage of the event.

4. Neutral
The article is neutral on the coverage of the event.

5. Stable
This article is stable day-to-day.

6. Illustrated
The images in the article are free and have relevant captions.

@Sims2aholic8:Well done. Just a few minor changes are needed. -Riley1012(talk)15:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Riley1012:Thanks for the review! All tweaks as part of criteria 1 have now been enacted.Sims2aholic8(talk)19:09, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, thanks. -Riley1012(talk)19:21, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was:promotedbyLaunchballer talk 10:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Carola

... thatSweden'sCarola(pictured)andFrance'sAminatied for first place at theEurovision Song Contest 1991,but Carola was declared the winner after a tie-break rule was enacted?

Source:Rome 1991

ALT1:... that theEurovision Song Contest 1991was originally planned to be held inSanremo,but was moved toRomeat a late stage due to increased security concerns resulting from theGulf War?Source:Sanremo perde l'Eurovision
Reviewed:Template:Did you know nominations/Samir Aït Saïd

Improved to Good Article status bySims2aholic8(talk).

Number of QPQs required:1.Nominator has 17 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changeswill be loggedon the talk page; considerwatchingthe nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Sims2aholic8(talk)21:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Date (recent GA status), size, QPQ, hooks (both), copyvio spotcheck, refs, etc. all GTG. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|reply here}06:00, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sims2aholic8andPiotrus:There's a{{clump}}of references in the Production section, can this be reworded?--Laun chba ller18:10, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Launchballer,Excessive citations? I don't see a problem, nor the tag/template? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|reply here}01:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CLUMPis quite clear that "more than three [citations] should generally be avoided". I've added a tag to show where it is.--Laun chba ller05:44, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, I fixed it by merging some duplicated citations and bundling two references that weren't being used for anything else.--Laun chba ller10:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]