User talk:Alalch E.
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I like to keep things compact, and don't have any great ideas for my user page yet, so my signature directs here. I was a long-time reader andlurker(since 2003). I appreciate theFive pillarsand the idea ofopen knowledge,and want to give something back; this is why I began editing in 2021. I'd like to receive your feedback on anything I've done. Expect a reply!:) By the way:- I prefer to keep discussions unfragmented. If you start a new talk topic here, I will respond on this same page, as an effort to keep the entire conversation in one place. By the same token, if I leave a comment on your talk page, please respond to it there, using the ping template like this: {{ping|Alalch E.}}. If you want to initiate a conversation with me anywhere else, simply ping me there—no need to notify me here.
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The articleStoneTossyou nominated as agood articlehas been placed on hold.The article is close to meeting thegood article criteria,but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. SeeTalk:StoneTossandTalk:StoneToss/GA1for issues which need to be addressed.Message delivered byChristieBot,on behalf ofLazman321--Lazman321(talk)16:21, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
The articleStoneTossyou nominated as agood articlehas passed;seeTalk:StoneTossfor comments about the article, andTalk:StoneToss/GA1for the nomination. Well done! If the article iseligible to appearin the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you cannominate itwithin the next seven days.Message delivered byChristieBot,on behalf ofLazman321--Lazman321(talk)17:42, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
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I've just nominatedThomas Sewell (neo-Nazi)for a GA. I've never done this before and I've noted that you have so I'd appreciate any guidance during the process.TarnishedPathtalk16:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Great. I'll add it to my watchlist and see if I might be able to help during the process. And before that, if I get any ideas for how to improve the article, I'll consult you. —Alalch E.16:33, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi Alalch E., hope all's well. Not long ago you closed theDRVforIvy Wolk.I'm wondering whether you think it would be appropriate to reopen a new DRV now that anotherstrong sourcehas come out (The Cut,October 25). I don't want to bother folks at large with repeated attempts, but I'm fairly sure the article would now survive AfD. Thanks,Hameltion(talk|contribs)03:42, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Hameltion:Hi. Reasonably well here, but should probably be in bed by now. How about you? Please seeWikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 October 28#Ivy Wolk,and thanks for notifying me. —Alalch E.02:12, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks again, appreciate your helping move the article along.Hameltion(talk|contribs)03:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Gerard Gertoux
[edit]Perfectly content to see it at AfD. I will remain neutral if so. If deleted it should be salted again, because that will prove I was in error for asking for unsalting and acceptance. I shall not be at all offended. 🇺🇦FiddleTimtrentFaddleTalk to me🇺🇦15:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- I've just collapsed a load of guff in the talk page there. I think the editor may be on their way to a NOTHERE block 🇺🇦FiddleTimtrentFaddleTalk to me🇺🇦15:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Timtrent:Thanks. I think it's fine that you made that enter mainspace, and agree that it looks like it could survive AfD. It's a questionable article, but it's not something that can't be tolerated until it's addressed. —Alalch E.21:34, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- You may already have seen that this is now at AfD by my hand. I have done a deal of work inside it and satisfied myself that my acceptance was a good faith error. I invite whatever opinion you see fit at that discussion. 🇺🇦FiddleTimtrentFaddleTalk to me🇺🇦16:26, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notification. —Alalch E.16:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- You may already have seen that this is now at AfD by my hand. I have done a deal of work inside it and satisfied myself that my acceptance was a good faith error. I invite whatever opinion you see fit at that discussion. 🇺🇦FiddleTimtrentFaddleTalk to me🇺🇦16:26, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Timtrent:Thanks. I think it's fine that you made that enter mainspace, and agree that it looks like it could survive AfD. It's a questionable article, but it's not something that can't be tolerated until it's addressed. —Alalch E.21:34, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion
[edit]Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you atWikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warringregarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy onedit warring.Thank you.TheBlueRider16:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Convenience link:Special:PermanentLink/1254826901#User:Alalch E. reported by User:The Blue Rider (Result: No violation)—Alalch E.21:25, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
A friendly reminder to check the brakes
[edit]I think you may be going a bit trigger happy with the warnings in relation to the dispute atTamara (given name).If they’re already quickly reverting the first template warning, they’re not going to react positively to a 4im 3rr warning. It would be one thing if this were a brand new account in need of having their rights explained to them, but they have several thousand edits. Needling them with further templates is unnecessary from a notification perspective and unproductive from a de-escalation perspectivesigned,Rosguilltalk16:24, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- You're right about that. The templates I was sending them were the NOR ones to awake them to the manifest NOR problem. —Alalch E.16:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think that the first warning was appropriate. After that...they may have yet to learn the lesson about OR, but you placing more warnings within 24 hours is not going to teach them anything.signed,Rosguilltalk16:35, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. When they removed the first one, that should have been it for that type of template. —Alalch E.16:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think that the first warning was appropriate. After that...they may have yet to learn the lesson about OR, but you placing more warnings within 24 hours is not going to teach them anything.signed,Rosguilltalk16:35, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
ITN recognition forNovi Sad railway station canopy collapse
[edit]On 3 November 2024,In the newswas updated with an item that involved the articleNovi Sad railway station canopy collapse,which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Schwede6604:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Maintaining Recent Article Improvements & Preventing Edit Wars
[edit]After following proper Wikipedia protocol to improve the Egregore article (announcing my intent, receiving no objections, completing substantial improvements), the recent reversion attempt is concerning. To prevent an edit war and document the necessity of these improvements: Procedural Steps Followed:
Discussion initiated regarding article issues by other contributors in (November 2020) and by me in (Sept 2024) No objections raised to proposed improvements Major rewrite completed addressing longstanding issues Attempted reversion (3 Nov 2024) without discussion This discussion opened to establish consensus
Core Improvements Made:
Policy | Previous Issue | Current Solution |
WP:NPOV | Presented supernatural claims as fact | Frames content as cultural/sociological phenomena |
WP:RS | Relied on self-published/esoteric sources | Uses academic journals and peer-reviewed research |
WP:FRINGE | Gave undue weight to esoteric claims | Balances scientific framework with cultural context |
WP:SCHOLARLY | Lacked academic context | Grounds concepts in established research |
Key Transformations:
Redefined from "non-physical entity" to "sociological and psychological concept" Introduced Durkheim's collective effervescence framework Added peer-reviewed studies on group psychology Properly contextualized esoteric interpretations
The improved version maintains respect for the subject matter while meeting Wikipedia's core standards. Reverting without discussion undermines bothWP:BRDand the collaborative improvement process. I request that we maintain the improved version and discuss any specific concerns through proper channels. --HyperSite(talk)00:28, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I appreciate your reaching out to me, and, yes, your desire to improve this article is valid. I can't imagine that any edit wars will be occurring. However, I share another editor's concern stated on the talk page that your rewrite has introduced original research. Do you mind if this discussion continues on the article's talk page to keep everything concentrated? —Alalch E.12:44, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Thomas Sewell (neo-Nazi) has been nominated for Did You Know
[edit]Hello, Alalch E.. I've nominatedThomas Sewell (neo-Nazi),an article you either created or to which you significantly contributed, to appear on Wikipedia'sMain Pageas part ofDid you know.You can see the hook and the discussionhere.You are welcome to participate! Thank you. ~~~~
TarnishedPathtalk12:16, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Recall closure template
[edit]Hi Alalch. Did you use a template forthis edit?I want to adjust the wording. – Joe(talk)10:19, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Joe Roe:Hi. I did not. —Alalch E.10:21, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
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DYK for StoneToss
[edit]On23 November 2024,Did you knowwas updated with a fact from the articleStoneToss,which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was... that X's rules were changed whenStoneTosssought help from Elon Musk after ananti-fascistgroup published materials claiming to have revealed their identity?The nomination discussion and review may be seen atTemplate:Did you know nominations/StoneToss.You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page(here's how,StoneToss),and the hook may be added tothe statistics pageafter its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on theDid you know talk page.