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Proposed deletionofAnthony Babikian

The articleAnthony Babikianhas beenproposed for deletionbecause of the following concern:

Did not play a single game in a fully-professional league and therefore fails WP:ATHLETE

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may bedeleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the{{dated prod}}notice, but please explain why in youredit summaryor onthe article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing{{dated prod}}will stop theProposed Deletion process,but otherdeletion processesexist. TheSpeedy Deletion processcan result in deletion without discussion, andArticles for Deletionallows discussion to reachconsensusfor deletion.Geregen2(talk)20:01, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Vandal removing of info

Please don´t remove information from the infoboxes as you did inDušan Kerkezpage before confirming the sources already on the page.FkpCascais(talk) 19:55, 17 November 2009 (UTC) After looking the case closelly, your argument is the Croatian wiki, where the text is completely UNSOURCED. After trying to find reasons for having the clubs from the crowiki linked with him, I only finded one source: a transfers-FORUM. You should really have in mind one situation: if you want to chek Serbian clubs, you should know that Croatian(in this case) or Albanian sources may not be the best. Even more if (again) UNSOURCED!!! By the way, the club "Radnički Obrenovac" does match in both wiki´s, so wy you removed it? Do you speak Croatian? Becouse the crowiki text about Kerkez says he was the team captain in FK Voždovac. That is very unlike being the player in the begining of his career...! Please don´t remove info that is sometimes so hard to get (about Serbian or other ex-Yu clubs), specially if well SOURCED!!! (you say one source, how many do you need???). RegardsFkpCascais(talk)03:55, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

In English wiki is un-sourced either.Matthew_hktc10:47, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

CfD nomination ofCategory:Hong Kong football squad templates

I have nominatedCategory:Hong Kong football squad templates(edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)for merging intoCategory:Hong Kong football templates(edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs).Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments atthe discussion page.Thank you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯08:23, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

A favour

Hi there MATTHEW, VASCO here,

When i had the anonymous account of 217.129.67.28, i was accused two times by you of vandalism, atJohn Jairo MosqueraandBruno Vale,when it was false (please check edit history, see my edits, and tell me what vandalism do you see).

Now, it's my time, but not with false accusations, but facts: please stop removing the ZEROZERO.PT link i add to some players, especially at those which are Portuguese or have played in that league for a good number of years. You did that atCésar PratesandPaíto,please stop, respect other people's work.

Thank you, have a nice week,

VASCO, Portugal - --Vasco Amaral(talk)01:46, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Just likeJuliano Pescarolo Martins"Paquito", the entry is wrong. The site add non-exist career at Spain for 2009-10, but i checked the club site there is no Paquito. I submitted the new information but the noob admin deleted Paquito past career at Portugal only recently fixed.

Except for player have stats. I have question on career information by zerozero. The site may not be so reliable now. Also, smabafoot sometimes have problem on their information but seems more reliable. So please verify the information and make zerozero a optional link. For sure C. Ronaldo i will add it but other player may not.Matthew_hktc22:53, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Don't know about that player, i have never even edited there. When i add ZEROZERO link, it is because i know it is reliable: when players are internationals or have played in the league for many years. Please, when i add it leave it be (when you add some site which i feel is good i will not remove it too). Until some other time, VASCO - --Vasco Amaral(talk)22:57, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Georgian football

		Football (soccer) barnstar
		For the contributions in Georgian football --BRUTE(talk)08:05, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs

Hello Matthew hk! Thank you for your contributions. I am abotalerting you that66of the articles that you created are tagged asUnreferenced Biographies of Living Persons.Please note that all biographies of living personsmust be sourced.If you were to addreliable,secondarysourcesto these articles, it would greatly help us with the current866article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the{{unreferencedBLP}}tag. Here is the list:

1. Giuseppe Cardone-Find sources:Google(books·news·scholar·free images·WP refs)·FENS·JSTOR·TWL
2. Alessandro Matri-Find sources:Google(books·news·scholar·free images·WP refs)·FENS·JSTOR·TWL
3. Reginaldo Ferreira da Silva-Find sources:Google(books·news·scholar·free images·WP refs)·FENS·JSTOR·TWL
4. Massimo Gobbi-Find sources:Google(books·news·scholar·free images·WP refs)·FENS·JSTOR·TWL
5. Andrea Mantovani-Find sources:Google(books·news·scholar·free images·WP refs)·FENS·JSTOR·TWL
6. Lorenzo Squizzi-Find sources:Google(books·news·scholar·free images·WP refs)·FENS·JSTOR·TWL
7. Marcello Castellini-Find sources:Google(books·news·scholar·free images·WP refs)·FENS·JSTOR·TWL
8. Andrea Parola-Find sources:Google(books·news·scholar·free images·WP refs)·FENS·JSTOR·TWL
9. Daniele Franceschini-Find sources:Google(books·news·scholar·free images·WP refs)·FENS·JSTOR·TWL
10. Riccardo Bonetto-Find sources:Google(books·news·scholar·free images·WP refs)·FENS·JSTOR·TWL

Thanks!--DASHBot(talk)20:47, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Struck a few I have sourced. I might do some more, as they are definitely notable!Poulsen(talk)08:28, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Done.Matthew_hktc07:15, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Articles RegardingQatar

		The Original Barnstar
		For adding a massive amount of information toQatarrelated articles. Your effort is highly appreciated!:)Kangxi Emperor khang hi đế(talk)13:33, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Pagemove done

I performed the move that you requested. The article now resides atAli Thani Jumaa.Please let me know if there are any problems.Ioeth(talkcontribstwinklefriendly)16:19, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Vitoria-Gasteiz

I noticed your comment atTalk:Vitoria-Gasteiz.I'm trying to reopen discussion of what to do with the name of that article and would appreciate your input. Regards,PhilipR(talk)08:37, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

A shiny

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		For exposingSheikh Asif bin Muhammad Iqbalas a hoax. Good job.Blanchardb-Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed17:51, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Luca Colombo

Hi, I was thinking of de-prodding this article but then I noticed you both created and prod'd it. However Sora were playing in a professional league in 2004-05 (C1, now LPPD). Here[1]is a reference to him being in the squad for 04/05 which I know is not the same as playing, but is there a good chance he did play for the club that season, which further search for sources may turn up? RegardsEldumpo(talk)10:35, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes he is in the squad of Sora but i cannot find the source he made he professional debut there.Matthew_hktc10:37, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Here is the match reporthttp://www.forzasora.it/archiviopartite/ritorno/pesaro.htm.You can expand it yourself.Matthew_hktc10:50, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Omani footballer article names

Hello Matthew hk. I noticed that you have moved several articles to new locations which contain the full name of the footballer. I believe this is the wrong decision sinceWP:COMMONNAMEindicates we ought to place articles at the location where users are most likely to find them. Footballers likeFawzi Bashirare almost always referred to by their given names in the media (even in Arabic sites like koora.com or goalzz.com). Just likePortuguese,AngolanandBrazilianfootballers (and someEgyptian footballers), we don't always use the full name for the name of the article. I don't want to start an edit war but you have reverted me and made a controversial move of the articles. Perhaps we can discuss in more detail atWT:FOOTYor on the article talk pages? Best regards.Jogurney(talk)12:45, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Just like the case of Adriano (ex-Inter) and Adriano (Seville), the arabic name consist of three parts: Porper name, the patronymic and the surname (start with Al and El). It is too many name sake if only consider the first two as name. And it is too wrong sorting them by patronymic.Matthew_hktc12:50, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

We can fix the sorting issue separately. My concern is that the article should not be at the full name (include surname) if that is not commonly used. Don't you agree that FIFA and almost every media source only uses the given and patronymic names to describe these players (e.g., do a Google News search on Khalifa Ayil)?Jogurney(talk)13:25, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Current practice for Brazilian is except very notable people:Ronaldo,Lúcio,Ronaldinho,EdmílsonandRoberto Carlos,all other use full name, includingAdriano,Julio Cesar.Matthew_hktc13:50, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

I've begun a discussion atWT:FOOTYbecause I disagree and would like to understand what the concensus has been in the past. Best regards.Jogurney(talk)14:46, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

In the meantime, please stop moving the articles until we know the proper location for them. It will save a lot of work if you wait.Jogurney(talk)14:48, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Please look at the match report of AFC, they were refer to his first name At least fixing the sort key is the first task.Matthew_hktc14:50, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

In AFC official recordMohammed Rabia Al-Noobiis refer to Mohammed or Mohammed Al-Noobi and FIFA.com use Mohammed Rabia it is better keep both patronymic and surname.[2]There is a few English coverage for common name, as most of the player played inside middle east.Matthew_hktc14:59, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Using google hit Mohammed Rabia is fewer thanMohammed Rabeabut almost no editorial hit. They is no define common name used by media, unlikesLuiz Adriano.It is because they were not noted in English/Western World.Matthew_hktc16:10, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Expatriates

Hi Matthew, I just want to check with you about if I´m using this categories the same way as you do or not:

• AllXianian expatriate footballersare the ones that have played out of Xiania, in any time of the career, not necessarily now.
• AllExpatriate footballers in Xianiaare those footballers that played in Xiania, in any time of the career, not necessarily now.

This has been the way I have been aplying these categories, but I see some (mostly new) editors removing the "Expatrite footballers in Xiania" category when a player doesn´t play in Xiania no long. Or, removing "Xianian expatriate footballers" when a player plays again in Xiania, having returned from abroad, and being no more an expatrite.

Maybe the way those editors apply the categories would be more correct with the exact meaning of the categories, but as the constant update of them would be extremely difficult, I think it´s easier to apply the categories as I wrote you in those points. This way is nice to see all players that have played in a certain country, and all players of a certain nationality that played abroad. In some recent edits of yours, I see you also apply them that way too, so, you agree, right?FkpCascais(talk)05:10, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

As theCategory:German-born footballers who played for other national teamsis deleted, it is hard to define dual nationality player, they were not expatriate if have enough source to prove his dual nationality.

For example,Guilherme SiqueiraandPierre-Emerick Aubameyangis not expatriate footballers in Italy and France as both whey holds Italian and French nationality. For the former, he spent his entire professional career at Italy, it notable sports nationality is Italy. For the latter, he capped for French U21 so should be kept in French footballers cat, he is both French expatriate and Gabonese expatriate as he does not holds Italy nationality, but he also holds French nationality so he is NOT expatriate in France.

I remove cat for dual nationality case.Matthew_hktc08:16, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

ForHamit Altıntopcase, i add back Expatriate cat because Germany nationality law did not grant German born baby with citizen status, it is possibly his parent had German nationality and made his spent entire career in Germany, BUT there is no reliable source to prove he really have German nationality so better sort him in Expatriate in Germany.Matthew_hktc08:20, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Category in wikipedia is contain both past and presentCategory:Current Serie A playerswas deleted nad replaced byCategory:Serie A players(nowCategory:Serie A footballers,those remove the cat wrongly you can give advise then content removal waring. Yes i'm the user likes to eat newbie.Matthew_hktc08:24, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

I see I wrote wrong my two points. Correction:

• AllXianian expatriate footballersare the Xianians that have played out of Xiania, in any time of the career, not necessarily now.(what you said, past and present)
• AllExpatriate footballers in Xianiaare those foreign non-Xianian footballers that played in Xiania, in any time of the career, not necessarily now.(past and present, excluding dual-nationals with Xianian nationality, as you said).

And you also gave good exemple about the competition cats. La Liga players includes past and present La Liga players, like in your Serie A exemple.

Hey, have you followed the Footy Project debates? Some members want to remove flags from players in club squads, and also the former/notable players lists that don´t have criteriums (almost all clubs have those lists without criteriums!). I recognise there is some reason, but the articles will loose much with this!FkpCascais(talk)08:48, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Interested?

Are you interested in creating and editing articles aboutfootball in Lebanonand Lebanese footballers?—Precedingunsignedcomment added bySmkaram(talk•contribs)10:55, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

removed vandal report

I removed your vandal report (below)with this editbecause this a more complex case tryWikipedia:Administrators' noticeboardorWP:SPIif you still feel more attention is needed.

• Smkaram(talk·contribs·deleted contribs·nuke contribs·logs·filter log·block user·block log)Give a first and final warning for added hoax players intoA.C. Monza Brianza 1912article 5 days before,TadamonSour19(talk·contribs·deleted contribs·page moves·block user·block log)is his Sockpuppet. Created hoax gain after received warning.Matthew_hktc09:22, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Jeepday(talk)11:29, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Can you comment it atWikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Smkaram.Matthew_hktc03:18, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

DoneJeepday(talk)12:50, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

FYI -User:Smkaram more community review pleaseJeepday(talk)15:50, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Hitzlsperger

This is a normal transfer with a transfer fee. His contract was dissolved like every contract is dissolved when the clubs are in agreement. --Yoda1893(talk)00:32, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

A.C. Milan

Please, do not removeDominic AdiyiahfromA.C. Milansquad list. As long as ACMilan.com lists himhereand nothere,we have to assume that he's part of the first team – just likeZigoni,by the way. Also,the regulationsof thePrimaverachampionshipclearly states that only players born on or after 1 January 1990 are eligible to play, while a maximum of four players (of which three must be born on or after 1 January 1989 anyway) might be used in each game asover-age players.—Luxic(talk)16:51, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Palilulac...

Hi Mat. What´s up? I hope you´re o´right. Listen, I corrected some terrible mistake you did some time ago. You messed up all "Palilulac" clubs... Well, I don´t blame you, it was not a very clear situation, but you should have tried to ask someone at least. The problem is with this three articles:

• FK Palilulac Beograd
• FK Palilulac Krnjača
• FK Palilulac Niš

Initially, the articles were right. There was two articles, the Krnjača and Niš ones. But, you made a huge mistake by renaming the Niš one to "FK Palilulac Beograd". The problem is that Beograd,(Belgrade) is the Krnjača one (Krnjača is a Belgrade suburb), and has nothing to do with Niš, another city some 400km away... So, basically, you aniquilated one club (the Niš one), and made a double page for another club (the Beograd/Krnjača one). Well, I solved this out. You were right about one thing: There is definitely a "FK Palilulac Beograd". It should stay as "FK Palilulac Beograd" (official name) leaving the "FK Palilulac Krnjača" as a redirect page, because the club is also know by that name. Now, the problem was that you eliminated the "FK Palilulac Niš", that I restored now.

Anyway, in case of doubts I´ll gladly help you if I can, don´t hesitate. Well, I hope you´re having fun and I send you regards.:)FkpCascais(talk)07:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Bell X-16images

The original images taken in 1956 before and during the construction of the mock-up, can also be found in Jay Miller's book,The X-Planes: X-1 to X-45: 3rd Edition,in the section, pp. 204–211. FWiWBzuk(talk)12:12, 24 April 2010 (UTC).

Unreferenced Footballers

Thanks for all your work on referencing footballers, but just to let you know, the list atWikipedia:WikiProject Football/Unreferenced BLPs/Full listis automatically updated each day, so there is no need to manually remove players that you've referenced, as the bot will detect the change within 24 hours. Cheers,The-Pope(talk)03:33, 16 May 2010 (UTC)