Wikipedia:Talk pages project
TheTalk pages projectis a project to improve how contributors communicate on Wikipedia using wikitext talk pages. It is the result of theTalk pages consultation 2019,a 5-month long effort that brought volunteers from 20 wikis (including the English Wikipedia) together with staff from the Wikimedia Foundation to define a product direction for building better tools for on-wiki communication. This product direction was documented inPhase 2 of the Talk Pages Consultation:
Wikitext talk pages should be improved, and not replaced. We will build a new design on top of wikitext talk pages that changes the page's default appearance and offers key tools. This new design should communicate to the user that this is not a content page, and help the user interact appropriately with the tools.
TheEditing Teamis using this product direction as our guiding principle for developing improvements to wikitext talk pages. To make sure these new tools work in the ways you expect, we need your help testing them.
Project updates
[edit]To stay up to date about the project, we recommend adding this page to your watch list:mw:Talk pages project/Updates.Updates are typically posted monthly.
We use themw:Talk pages project/Updatespage to share information about new feature development, deployment plans and questions the team would value your input on.
You can read the latest project update here:Status updates
Reply tool
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visualmode
sourcemode and advanced optionsThe Reply tool is similar to existing user scripts. It detects user signatures and timestamps, and adds a "Reply" button. If you click the reply button, it gives you a box into which to type your reply.
Deployment status
[edit]The reply tool has been enabled for everyone inMarch 2022 on desktop,andMarch 2023 on mobile,afterseveral years of beta testing and A/B testing.
You cansee comments made with the Reply tool in RecentChanges.
The help page is atmw:Help:DiscussionTools.
Features
[edit]- Automatic signatures
- Automatic indentation
- Automatic live preview as you type
- Automatic resolution of most edit conflicts
- Ability to reply on an old version of a page, and have your comment posted in the correct place in the newest version (if the comment you're replying to still exists on the page)
- If it can't resolve the edit conflict automatically, it'll give you an error message. (You can copy your comment and reload the page.)
- Keyboard shortcuts for cancelling (Escape) and posting (e.g.,⌘ Command+Return)
- Preference setting: Your choice whether you use it.
- Toolbar in the visual mode
- Keyboard shortcuts for linking, pinging, formatting, etc. in the visual mode
- Search tool for linking and pinging in the visual mode
Future:
- Inserting templates in the visual mode
- Toolbar in the wikitext mode
- Keyboard shortcuts for linking, pinging, formatting, etc. in the wikitext mode
- Search tool for linking and pinging in the wikitext mode
- Integration with the edit conflict resolution tools
- Watchlist integration (i.e., ability to add/remove page from your watchlist)
Limitations
[edit]The Reply Tool will not work if:
- A comment breaks the indentation hierarchy
- A comment uses{{od}}
- A comment is unsigned
- A comment ends with a malformed signature
Open bugs
[edit]You can leave feedback atmw:Talk:Talk pages project/replyingoron the talk page here.Full list of all work is athttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/4547/(version 1) andhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/4546/(version 2)
- It copes poorly with some unusual wikitext errors, such asSpecial:LintErrors/multiline-html-table-in-list.(phab:T246481)
- It's not obvious to everyone that the tool automatically "indents" the reply, so sometimes people add extra colons. (phab:T249961)
- It doesn't support some features that use multi-line syntax, such as gallery and math tags. (phab:T251633)
- It doesn't recognize somenon-compliantcustom signatures, which can result in missing [Reply] buttons and replies being placed at the wrong indentation level.
Opting in
[edit]Users that have opted-out may opt-in again by:
- Enabling "Enable quick replying" in the Discussion pages section ofEditing Preferences.
Bug reporting for beta and gamma testers
[edit]Should you see any Reply tool bugs, especially ones related to the English Wikipedia, please open a phabricator bug and referencephab:T296645,or post onthe talk page.
Opting out
[edit]Registered users may disable the reply-tool in preferences here:Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion.
Changing the reply label
[edit]The "reply" label can be altered with the following addition to yourSpecial:MyPage/common.jsfile (replace 💬 with whatever label you prefer):
// Alter "reply" label
$(".ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply").text('💬');
// To remove the surrounding square brackets:
$(".ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket").text('');
// If you use the 💬 then also change the button height so that the overall line height is not changed
mw.util.addCSS('.ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons { height: 1.2em; }');
Starting a new topic
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TheNew Topic Toolmakes it easier to start a new section on a talk page. Improvements to the workflow for starting a new topic on talk pages. This can be tested with the?dtenable=1code.
It has many of the same features as the Reply tool, such as automatically signing your message. You can write your edit in both visual and wikitext modes. In the wikitextsourcemode, a live preview shows what your message will look like once it is posted to the talk page. In thevisualmode, you can usekeyboard shortcutsto make links, to ping other people, and to add character formatting.
Open questions include support forpreloads,whether to change the toolbar (e.g., to add a special characters menu or a table inserter), and whether to offer the toolbar in the wikitext mode.
On 10 March 2021,the New Topic Toolbecame part of the sameBeta Featureas the Reply tool.
As of 30 June 2021, the New Topic Tool had been used to create more than 30,000 new sections (across all wikis).
On 29 June 2022, the New Topic Tool became the default for adding new topics to talk pages for all editors with the option to disable it in preferences (Phab:T311023) after asuccessful RFCatWP:VPP.
Notifications for topic subscriptions
[edit]Notificationsmake it possible for you to getpingedwhenever anyone replies to a single section of a long talk page, without having to put the whole page on your watchlist. The feature has been enabled for everyone inAugust 2022.
This feature adds a link to[subscribe]at the end of the discussion section headings. Click the[subscribe]link to receivenotificationsif and when new comments are added to that section in the future.
After you have subscribed to this section, there will be an[unsubscribe]link. Click that to stop receiving notifications about new comments in that section.
Special:TopicSubscriptionsis a list of all of the pages you are subscribed to.
Features
[edit]- Notifications are based on the first comment and its timestamp. Changes to the section heading do not affect the subscription.
- You can only subscribe to a ==Level 2 section==. (phab:T275943is a proposal to allow subscribing to other levels as well)
- You will receive notifications about new comments regardless of the editing interface used to post them. (You will not receive notifications for other edits, such as fixing typos.)
- Subscriptions will remain intact even when conversations are moved to other pages (including archiving and un-archiving).
- Registered editors do not see the
[subscribe]links on their own user talk pages, even though the feature is enabled.
Reported problems
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FixedWikipedia:One click archivingseems to generate additional pings when the discussion is archived. (phab:T290803)- If the page is moved (or the discussion archived), thenSpecial:TopicSubscriptionsstill shows the original page name (phab:T66184,phab:T295431)
Other projects
[edit]Other requests from theWikipedia:Talk pages consultation 2019will be developed later. These include:
Usability
[edit]mw:Talk pages project/Usabilityis looking at making a few changes to talk pages, to make them more useful (maybe a note indicating how old the discussion is or how many different editors commented in the discussion?) and less easily confused with the mainspace.
Goals include:
- More useful information for experienced editors
- Newcomers less likely to post new articles/content on talk pages.
New requirements for custom signatures
[edit]Making MediaWiki software prevent some HTML errors and enforce parts ofWP:SIGLINKandWP:SIGFORGEin software. This will make it easier to reply to specific comments on talk pages and to make it more likely that existing features, such as "Mention"notifications (which are only sent if your signature can be detected) will be sent. It will also simplify coding for some bots and user scripts (including gadgets).
You can read the outcome atmw:New requirements for user signatures.As of January 2021, this affects less than 1% of active users. If your custom signature is invalid, seemw:New requirements for user signatures/Help.
New syntax for multi-line comments
[edit]New wikitext for writing multi-line comments and containing wikitext and HTML errors that 'leak'. This new syntax is intended to make it possible for contributors to, among other things, communicate about and collaborate on components like navboxes, series templates, and infoboxes within indented comments on talk pages and create visual line breaks within talk page comments without using HTML code or local templates. This change will require approval frommw:TechComvia theirtechnical RFC process.
As of 2021, it is not possible to insert templates in the Reply tool's visual mode because of this problem.