User talk:Mean as custard

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Fontana, California

Thanks for trimming the promos at Fontana, California. I've been removing promotional cruft from articles for a while, and occasionally have pushback like this. I'd like to take this whole "promo and rankings in US city articles" to an RfC like the Canadians did. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:42, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Avercast

Is this company likely to pass WP:NCORP? If yes, I'd remove the old tags. If not, I'd send it to WP:AfD. Please ping me either way. Bearian (talk) 00:16, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Golfist...

...is not a word. Please use common English, i.e. "golfer". Thanks. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 21:05, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Or "professional golfer" when appropriate. In some contexts, any such descriptor is unnecessary and can simply be removed. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 21:26, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

External links

Links to official websites are appropriate per WP:ELYES/WP:ELOFFICIAL ("Wikipedia articles about any organization, person, website, or other entity should link to the subject's official site". Please stop removing them from External Links sections. Thank you. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 00:54, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Shifra Smart Homes

I saw you took a shot at editing this stub. I don't see how it's notable. If you nominate it for deletion, please ping me. Bearian (talk) 02:03, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

March 2021

Hi, I saw you took a shot at the updates I made about Telestream company The updates are based on actual facts which is described in the factsheet of the company. All users of Wikipedia have the right to know actual data i.e. the story of company, number of employees, revenue, so that they decide whether to join it as employee or buy its products or make career decisions. All MNC's already show such information. write to me in my talk page if you have any concerns on any paragraph. I have removed some of them for you. Please let it be there.

Bearian (talk) 02:03, 3 March 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhiren7291 (talk • contribs) [reply]

User warned for adding promotional material to Wikipedia. . . Mean as custard (talk) 12:18, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

February 2021

Hello, I'm Pbrks. I noticed that you recently removed content from Houston Outlaws without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Pbrks (talk) 16:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm Mvcg66b3r. I noticed that you recently removed content from Calbee without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 16:36, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Conklin Center

Hi! Just courtesy heads up that I dePRODded this as I think there's enough to at least warrant an AfD. StarM 00:15, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Heads Up: Vandal Patrol

Hey @Mean as custard: just a heads up, in the persons talk page |Qualitynet_q8, you need to make a new section, please and thank you.

I don't understand what you mean. . . Mean as custard (talk) 21:16, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gemma Quinnell

Just a quick head's up, I declined the speedy you put on this article and sent it off to AfD. I have a feeling if I deleted it, it would just come back again for the reasons I expressed at AfD, and therefore I want a documented discussion to get rid of it. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 11:11, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

AImotive

Hi – you added an advertising flag to the AImotive page back in 2019. I've just done a major edit. It would be great if you could check the page sometime, and flag anything else that needs to be changed in your opinion to remove the promotional tag. Many thanks! --Seagerd (talk) 11:33, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It looks better now so I have removed the Advert tag, although there seems to be an excessive number of references in places. . .Mean as custard (talk) 14:39, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, I haven't got round to cleaning up the references yet. Will do so sometime in the coming weeks. Thank you for the feedback. --Seagerd (talk) 10:50, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Justiyaya

Just wanted to say thanks for your recent Kathy Taylor edits :) Justiyaya (talk) 10:40, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

LoopUp

Hi Mean as a custard, I appreciate your contribution on the LoopUp article however your edits took out the main offering that the company now offers - Direct routing for Microsoft Teams. If you checked the website and newsroom you would see that the content on the page was at least up to date. If you are not going to let me update the content as you find it too promotional can you at least make sure that what your edits don't make the article completely outdated and irrelevant!? LyonDelphine (talk) 15:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mailman Group

Hello, Mean as custard,

Please make sure when you do a big revert to an earlier version of an article, that there haven't been valid changes made since that earlier version was done. In this case, categories had been altered to correct ones and your revert put back nonexistent, red link categories. If, in the future, you could just look over the page and fix any problems like this that appear before moving on to the next article, it would be appreciated. Thank you! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:50, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Teresa Carlson COI edit requests

Hi! Reaching out because I saw you've been involved in updating Teresa Carlson in the past. I've posted some COI edit requests on the talk page there. If you have time, would love your feedback. Thank you! Mary Gaulke (talk) 20:56, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Krea University

You didn't like the tone of Krea University and therefore erased, essentially, all of it. If you don't like some of the content, please be judicious and just erase what you find objectionable. I didn't write the article. I was just a contributor. But I appreciate that people who are looking up the university will be interested in more than just a stub. Njonsey (talk) 12:41, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The content I removed was unreferenced and wholly promotional in tone. . .Mean as custard (talk) 17:18, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Madras Christian College

Hey would you mind looking at Madras Christian College. I tried cleaning up the article but it still contains a lot of unsourced material. I am not sure if it’s all right to remove all unsourced material as it might degrade the quality of the article. Thanks defcon5 (talk) 15:28, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Castronovo Chocolate

Thank you for trimming Castronovo Chocolate. The references were from bogus anduntrustworthy sources such as New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and Zagat. Pat yourself on the back. You should feel proud of yourself. Another editor noted after you that no sources exist... well, of course they don't after your good work. The only disappointment is you didn't delete the whole article.

The problem was one of promotional tone, not of sources. . .Mean as custard (talk) 07:07, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Promo cuts to Alpha Sigma Tau

Good afternoon, Mean.

I'm generally onboard with reduction of promotional material in articles, and cruft (great word for it). My areas of editing work focus on the Fraternities and Sororities Project, and various collegiate articles. Lots of cruft to work with there. But also woeful stubs that need expansion.

Regarding the very sharp scythe you took to the Alpha Sigma Tau article, I think you cut too much. While toss-off sentences like "Alpha Sigma Tau provides women with the skills, community, and empowerment needed to excel in life." are clearly "yada-yada" filler, and add no encyclopedic value, I thought the sections listing values and traditions were OK, as was inclusion of their Creed. While all such groups have a creed, citing it here is useful for non-members to understand the sorority's brand and its differentiation. --Not just for branding in a promotional sense. I would make a clear distinction between the two (promotion versus clarification). Stated a different way, I don't have a problem with company articles that note their mission statement or animating values: Inclusion helps their people focus, and helps outsiders hold them accountable because of the clarity these words provide.

I assume you deleted the symbols section because some of the items were duplicated in the infobox. My sense of other F&S articles is that the infobox summarizes and that a symbols and traditions section is allowable, and may have a sentence or two of dialog and supporting references. At least that is how hundreds and hundreds of other articles have it.

Further, I find the listing and short descriptions of programs for health and safety issues, which you cut, to be valuable, especially in differentiating this program benefit among other women's groups. These aren't just marketing screed; rather, these items are important to participants and their parents. (Speaking as an outside observer, sorority women tend to have a higher skew awareness and responsiveness to these points. I note this even though these items aren't personally important to me. I hope I'm clear.)

For sure, the sections blathering on about "Lifelong friendships", "Vast network", "Giving back", clearly are more cruft, and I support those deletions, too.

Have you considered a similar effort on the several very long, disjointed, promotional and nattering articles for the traditionally Black Greek Letter Organizations? Some of these have endless detail, going on for a hundred or more paragraphs. To be fair, there is far more promotional language in these, with kludgy language, grammar issues, often a non-encyclopedic tone, non-notable "notable members", lack of references, and themes that are severely over-weighted. The same criticism can be made of articles about the Ivy League schools, which drone on for paragraphs about insufferable details of their annual rankings and further detail about minor departments and initiatives. Gaaah. These are far more troubling to me.

I really appreciate your work. We may have a slight difference of opinion on this issue. I remain an Inclusionist rather than a Deletionist, to bring up the long-standing Wikipedia debate. I fully endorse the effort to cut non-encyclopedic junk and clearly biased, promotional material, but I do recognize that we do not have the same space limitations as a physical encyclopedia. Fair? Would you give my view here a review before I go back to the article and restore a couple of these items?

You call yourself Mean, but I think you are just thorough. You are an important contributor to Wikipedia. For that, and a few moments of attention to this note, I thank you.

Jax MN (talk) 17:38, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

April 2021

Hello, I'm SeaCardinal. I noticed that you recently removed content from Kibi Presbyterian College of Education without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. SeaCardinal (talk) 15:48, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yukari Films

You recently placed an Advert template onto this page, however, you did not provide any feedback or reason why. It is not written in a promotional tone. The subject meets the wiki guidelines and has both industry impact, as well as positive peer reviews - which are all documented with reliable citations. Additionally, you placed a Verifiability template on the page also, which makes no sense as none of the citations are close to the source whatsoever. I would appreciate an explanation of these actions so that the article can be improved upon, or ask to please remove the complaints.45.170.104.254 (talk) 08:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If the article referred to is Yulari Films, only the Advert template was mine, but I agree with whoever added the other two templates. The article consists mainly of unreferenced positive reviews and lists of alleged awards, and overall the tone is highly promotional. . . Mean as custard (talk) 11:03, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Editor of the Week

		Editor of the Week
		Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your constant removal of advertising. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

User:Premeditated Chaos submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

I nominate Editor Mean as custard to be Editor of the Week for their tireless work in removing promotional content from Wikipedia. Editor of the Week celebrates Wikipedia editors who are making significant contribution to the health and welfare of Wikipedia. For the last twelve, count 'em, twelve years, Mean as custard has worked practically daily at this task with laser focus and incredible patience. Mean as custard's dedication has led to 175K edits with a commendable 73% in mainspace. Intervening against vandalism and improper usernames is also a duty Mean has taken on. Without editors like this, working behind the scenes, the encyclopedia would be in a sorry state indeed. Let his efforts be bare of our appreciation no longer. User:Vami IV seconded this nomination.

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Nomination of Solid Waste Association of North America for deletion

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Assistance

Hello -- you keep flagging my edits as being promotional, but they are clearly written in objective prose. It would be nice to have your assistance in identifying what about my edits on Native Design in particular is having you flag the content. I will happily change so it can remain up. Thank you!

Native Design: "awarded for developing innovative products", "now offers a full-service innovation practice", "a completely cohesive user experience", "a range of world-firsts", "made with sustainability and a circular economy in mind". - all highly promotional. You clearly have a conflict of interest with the subject despite (or due to) removing the advert tag from the article header. . . Mean as custard (talk) 17:02, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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OSF Digital

Hello, Mean as custard,

I noticed you did a big revert to an earlier version of the OSF Digital article, after I had made valid changes reflecting the current status of the company. It would be much appreciated if you could provide details on what specific part of the content you consider to be promotional, so that we can fix the problem instead of discarding everything. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Filotesimona (talk • contribs) 19:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Filotesimona. Besides the COI guidelines I left on your Talk, I recommend you read the guidelines about shared accounts since you say "we" above. Thank you Star Mississippi 01:37, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mean as custard. Thank you for your feedback. This is not a shared account. "We" refers to the people/users editing the page, you and I.Filotesimona (talk) 17:40, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mission, vision deletions

Hi Mean as custard. I note a couple of mission statement deletions, etc., you recently provided. I've seen your solid editing before, and know these were offered in good faith. I would challenge them though, as these points are factual and do not generally tend to excessive puffery or bloat. That said, I would firmly agree with you that some of these Greek Letter Organization pages indeed do have such peacock language. I too, police such body text often. I also cut sections of really long mission statements for the purpose of summary statements.

We ought not be haphazard in these. If you want to argue that omitting mission statements, vision, pillars, etc., should merit a change to our standard infobox template (and these, from the body text that generally informs the infoboxes), fine. Take it up as a discussion point on the template Talk page. Let's determine consensus first.

I've got a long list of pending edit work, but if this issue is a focus of your concern, maybe take a look at the websites for the Divine nine, many of which have lengthy, bloated text which detracts from the value of a more tightly written summary article. Or look at some of the 'captive' honor societies that are merely profit-making front groups. These are rife with peacock language. Fair? Jax MN (talk) 17:19, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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UNICOM edits

Hi, I have removed a number of items that may have read as advertising from this page that you placed a flag on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNICOM_Global. Please let me know if this is sufficient and if the flag can be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louv (talk • contribs) 17:51, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"delivers software, services, and solutions to Fortune 500 and Global 2000 companies" is still marketing-speak. . .Mean as custard (talk) 19:10, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi -- I have changed that sentence to be inline with the introductory sentence of similar companies, IBM and HCL_Technologies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louv (talk • contribs) 12:46, 11 February 2022 (UTC) Hi -- let me know if the note can be removed at this point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louv (talk • contribs) 21:53, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It still contains multiple references to "solutions", which is a word found frequently in advertisements and rarely in unbiased encyclopedia articles. . . Mean as custard (talk) 22:53, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi I have removed all references to 'solutions' -- as you pointed out via the buzzword note -- thank you for doing that it made it easy to find them. I believe the "Contains content written like and advertisement" flag can now be removed. Louv (talk) 02:56, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi -- I just removed all such references to 'solutions' -- as you pointed out via the buzzword note -- thank you for doing that it made it easy to find them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louv (talk • contribs) 13:50, 15 February 2022 (UTC) Please let me know if the "Contains content written like advertisement" flag can now be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.37.50.38 (talk) 21:05, 20 February 2022 (UTC) Hi -- let me know if the "Reads Like Advertisement" flag can be removed. I believe I have fixed the page and it can be removed now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louv (talk • contribs) 22:04, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thai-Chinese International School - (Removal of Ad tag)

I've edited this article to be less promotional. Can you consider removing the ad tag? Roostery123 (talk) 02:28, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022

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Removal or company URLs in Infoblox and "External links" from companies

I noticed that you have been removing company URLs from infoblox and the "External links" section from company related pages and I was just wondering if there was a particular policy against including that information? I would also like to mention that a number of your recent edits have left off the edit summary which makes it harder for other editors to see what is going on. Gusfriend (talk) 14:27, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I was just coming to ask the same after your removal on Terracotta, Inc.. I don't think this is necessary or policy based when it's the official URL. Can you clarify? Thanks! Star Mississippi 15:43, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I often find in articles containing promotional content that the company url is in the heading infobox as well as at the bottom of the page, and this seems excessive. Occasionally I remove it from the infobox as well where it appears to me to be part of the company's advertising strategy on Wikipedia. . .Mean as custard (talk) 18:06, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is explicitly a field for it in the infobox, so I don't think your editing is in line with current practice. Please keep culling the spamvertorial content as you are doing, but I think the URLs are fine since I believe they're all WP:NOFOLLOW Star Mississippi 18:59, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For the "External links" section I agree that there is often too many links but would suggest that having the company URL there via the template {{Official URL}} would be reasonable even if the other links were removed.Gusfriend (talk) 01:17, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

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New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022

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Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

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Hello. You have recently removed the projects section from this page as an advert. How can I modify this list of projects that have used the Berkeley Open Infrastructure to be more inline with expectations and the receptacle of historical information that I want it to be? Al Piskun (talk) 10:10, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of listing every single project, you could include a few examples if they are written with non-promotional language and have independent references to show their notability. . .Mean as custard (talk) 17:37, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Al Piskun (talk) 21:38, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be okay to include (and link to) all projects that have a Wikipedia page even if that were more than a few? Al Piskun (talk) 22:01, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, if a project has a Wikipedia page then that (in theory) shows it is notable. . .Mean as custard (talk) 08:14, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Removal of project list

Hi Mean as Custard. You recently edited the CDM Smith page to remove external links and now our "significant projects" list is gone. There were ten projects listed that linked to external sources. Do you remember deleted the list and why? Thanks. Shepardde (talk) 20:23, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It was just a list of external links, with no indication as to why they were significant. . .Mean as custard (talk) 13:46, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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National Dong Hwa University

You didn't like the tone of National Dong Hwa University and therefore erased, essentially, most of it. Some of that is well-refered and is the fact. If you don't like tone in some of the content, please edit it rather than erasing all of it. But I appreciate that people who are looking up the university will be interested in more than just a stub. Decasurger (talk) 02:31, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Addiko Bank

Hi Mean as custard, I am new to wikipedia and noticed that you were one of the editors of the addiko bank wiki page. Could you maybe have a look at the information? I believe it is very outdated, since the german version is very different and provides much more recent data. I am not qualified to make changes though, I think. If there is a proper way to request changes please let me know.

Many thanks :) Isi Lara TA (talk) 14:01, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mission/Vision & Fraternities

I've started a discussion at Template talk:Infobox Fraternity on the Mission/Vision fields. I decided to jump straight to that without reverting the recent removals that you've done. I'd appreciate your comments.Naraht (talk) 15:17, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Perkins&Will

Hi there. Thanks for your attention to the Perkins&Will page. I'm trying to update it, as the information is about ten years out of date, and I'm using the article pages for Gensler, Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, and other architecture firms as guides. Would it be better to clone the page in my sandbox, update the information with your comment in mind, and solicit feedback there? I've never gone deep on an edit before, and would really appreciate any additional guidance. MauriceFrancisEgan (talk) 23:27, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Essbase

Hello, @Mean as custard,

can you please explain the reason for removing all external links on 2023-02-06 on the Essbase article, including those of the main link to the product and the main link to the last version of documentation?

I look at competing products, and see there similar external links. Pesec.il (talk) 18:27, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am guided by Wikipedia:External links. I did not remove the main link to the product in the infobox. . . Mean as custard (talk) 20:06, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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	Even after 8000 bytes deleted from the Journal of Marketing article, issues still persist. Even with that case, you still did an amazing job de-advertising the article. Roasted (talk) 22:02, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

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noakhali Zilla School

I didn't add any advertisement or promotional content.

You are requested to contact me 🟥 t.me/sphenZii Schizo15523 (talk) 14:06, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

noakhali Zilla School

please do mention where ive done the promotional context. 🙂 i would have been very much pleased if you knocked me on telegram.

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Gelareh Abbasi

Hello. Why was the Wikipedia page for Gelarah Abbasi removed? She is one of Iran's most famous actresses, and her films have been shown all over the world. The page was loaded with links to sources. I have no idea how to save the page! Can you lend a hand? AliFatehi (talk) 11:54, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It was deleted because it was considered to consist of unambiguous advertising or promotion. . .Mean as custard (talk) 19:09, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I didn't write this article in the right way, but she is a well-known person. Please help me get this page back. AliFatehi (talk) 09:27, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The deletion notice on your talk page said "If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator." . . .Mean as custard (talk) 11:26, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Western Interstate Commission for Higher Education

Hello! I saw you took down 75% of the content on this page for being "promotional," but all of the content was directly from the organization's website and detailed the various programs it administers. I was very careful in remaining as objective as possible when adding the information, so please help me get that important content back so people have a more rounded understanding of what WICHE does. Thanks. 129.19.153.62 (talk) 21:56, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think what you consider important is only really important if you can cite independent sources which discuss it and show it is notable. . .Mean as custard (talk) 07:44, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Right, so then you can take it upon yourself to add sources. Taking down everything and deeming it "promotional" just doesn't make sense to me. Did you think it was promotional or just unimportant? Chowdaboy (talk) 15:28, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You said it was important. I removed the content only because it was promotional. . .Mean as custard (talk) 16:09, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And I disagree. If you can add it back, I will provide independent sources for anything I can and remove whatever I can't. Chowdaboy (talk) 16:14, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The Broken String Band

I reverted the wholly promotional crud that was recently added to The Broken String Band. You can retag it for A7 if you feel it still meets the criteria.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 17:38, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hacked?

You are making a lot of unexplained deletions. I will treat them as vandalism as that's the quickest way to restore the content. Please explain. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 19:58, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, why bother to consider why I might have deleted the content? . . .Mean as custard (talk) 12:26, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just use edit summaries. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 16:22, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Advertising tag on Brightroll

I removed the {{ad}} tag you placed on BrightRoll, March 30, 2015 [1]. I looked at the accumulated changes since you placed the tag [2], and it looks like quite a bit of promotional material has been removed. I removed one last bit of it and removed the tag. I won't object if you think there are still issues that need to be addressed. _signed,Willondon (talk) 15:19, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Libvirt Advert tag?

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Thank you

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Chalmers University of Technology: Advert tag

Dear User:Mean as custard,

I noticed you added the {Advert} tag to the Wikipedia page for Chalmers University of Technology. After reviewing the content, I made edits to remove sections that I felt were promotional material. Could you please take another look at the wiki page and share your thoughts? Note that I have already removed the Advert Tag. Thank you for your consideration. Undercover scientist (talk) 13:35, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All sorted. I notice that you have made multiple edits to this page and none to any other Wikipedia articles. Could it be that you gave a confict of interest?. . .Mean as custard (talk) 14:15, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your revision. I have a background as a student at Chalmers University of Technology. Should this be considered a potential conflict of interest, I am willing to refrain from further edits on this page. Undercover scientist (talk) 19:11, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CBM (Charity)

HiUser:Mean as custard, thank you for your input. I tried to remove promotional sections from the previous version. Can you have a look again? I think there is much information that is important and not promotional, so I try to identify the promotional sections. Can you let me know, if you think any more sections are problematic?

You just reinstated the previous version, promotional material and all. . . Mean as custard (talk) 11:08, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi User:Mean as custard, this is not true. You can see from the number of characters that the text has been shortened by 10% - about 1000 characters less, so I did not "just reinstate it". In my opinion, these were promotional passages. Can you please be more specific in your feedback? That's not very constructive this way, sorry to say. I also compared the article with other NGOs, it's mostly exactly the same sections. 09:42, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here are a few of the promotional phrases: "create a world where every person has equal opportunities and can live free from disease and poverty", "draws on its Christian values and over 100 years of professional expertise", "to realise its vision and fulfil its mission", "dedicated to improving the quality of life for persons with disabilities in the world's poorest communities", "strives to make a significant and sustainable impact on the lives of persons with disabilities, contributing to a more inclusive and equitable world for all", "reflects its commitment". . .Mean as custard (talk) 12:58, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How is describing the mandate and mission of a nonprofit organization promotional? After all, they have legal relevance and determine how an NGO MUST use its donations. Just some examples from other aproved wiki pages of other NGOs:

Amnesty International: 'The stated mission of the organisation is to campaign for "a world in which every person enjoys all of the human rights"'
UNICEF: 'UNICEF's programs emphasize developing community-level services to promote the health and well-being of children.'
WWF: 'WWF revised its mission statement to: Stop the degradation of the planet's natural environment and to build a future in which humans live in harmony with nature (...)'

Every aid organisation works in accordance with its statutes, which is why its official mandate is not simply advertising – it is a legally binding framework. And as you can see, it is quite common on the Wikipedia pages of NGOs to describe their mandate and it is very relevant to the public. So why set such double standards in this case?

In addition, >90% of the content is a description of the historical foundation and prehistory. Wouldn't it be much more expedient to edit individual sentences or passages instead of simply rejecting everything across the board? 2003:DF:6F1A:3000:B183:B128:A730:33 (talk) 14:26, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About your edit in Bağdat Avenue

Hello, I do not understand how the part you deleted is promotional. It just talks about the travel. Youprayteas ^talk^/^contribs 17:23, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It read more like a tourist guide than an encyclopedia article. . .Mean as custard (talk) 17:25, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It only mentions transportation. You can remove some parts of it but I don't see why the entire paragraph should be removed. Youprayteas ^talk^/^contribs 17:30, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the {{Ad}} tag you placed on Pacific Ridge School on April 1, 2023 [3]. I reviewed the article, made extensive revisions, and believe the issue is taken care of. I won't object if you still think there are concerns to be flagged. _signed,Willondon (talk) 14:35, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

External links

Hello! I appreciate your edits to remove promotional material. I wanted to reach out, as I've noticed you have been removing the "external links" section from articles. Per WP:ELYES, we should and can include links to the organizations or businesses of the article in the section at the bottom! Thanks. glman (talk) 13:07, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I generally only remove the external link to an organisation at the bottom of the article when it already appears in the infobox at the top. . .Mean as custard (talk) 08:04, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I removed the {{Ad}} tag you placed on INJAZ on September 7, 2018 [4]. I reviewed the cumulative edits since you placed the tag [5], and it looks like the problem has been addressed. I won't object if you still think there are concerns to be flagged. _signed,Willondon (talk) 13:54, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Reversion of edit on Blount Island Command

Hi there! Blount Island Command needs a lot of help. Why did you revert my edit? A quick glance at my contribution history shows I'm not a vandal. I showed up at the Blount Island page to provide coordinates and also did some copy editing because it's so promotional and so poorly written I can't even tell what it's about. Is it a Marine Corps unit? It's too promotional for the military... Is it a private contractor trying to pass themselves off as a military unit? It's just too promotional to stand as it is. May I redo the copy editing? It does not at all meet Wikipedia's standards for quality... Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 15:39, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to edit it, but don't reinstate promotional material like "proud of our relationship with Marine warfighters" and "operationally invaluable in supporting our nation’s interests". . .Mean as custard (talk) 17:13, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You recently tagged Jagdish Sheth School of Management as written like an advert

I have just removed a great swathe of brochure-like material, and detagged it. Feel free to re-tag if you believe I have not gone far enough, or to edit some more yourself 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KNIME

Dear @Mean as custard,

Thank you very much for your input. I recognize that you are a highly experienced user, and I would greatly appreciate your guidance on how to improve the KNIME Wikipedia entry in a way that avoids being flagged as promotional content.

For now, I have reverted your edit because I’m hoping to receive a detailed edit summary from you.

To give you some context, KNIME is a software company whose main product, KNIME Analytics Platform, has changed and evolved greatly over the past 10 years. The Wikipedia page had not been updated in many years, resulting in outdated and sometimes inaccurate information. This is why the edit was so extensive and resulted in a significant increase in the number of bytes (which probably caught your attention).

For example, the version you reinstated contained information about courses, but the offerings have changed dramatically, with KNIME reshaping its course curriculum. Therefore, wouldn’t it be better to have the most updated information? Or should information on courses not be included altogether?

Additionally, I understand from reading these Identifying blatant adversting guidelines that discussing a company’s mission carries a high risk of being flagged as promotional. However, my intention was to discuss the design principles of the platform from a technical perspective. This section was inspired by the Python entry and cites an academic paper, focusing on computer science concepts rather than the company's mission.

I appreciate your guidance on how to better present this information. Bassanelli (talk) 14:13, 3 July 2024 (UTC) comment added by Bassanelli (talk • contribs) 13:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have left it as it is for now, but it reads more like a software user manual than an encyclopedia article about the company. . .Mean as custard (talk) 18:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. The style of content written there is fundamentally unencyclopedic, and reliant entirely on primary sources. I've re-reverted. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Pppery for your feedback.

I understand your concern on primary sources. I have therefore included the part about design principles since it references an external academic paper. This was inspired by "Design and Philosophy features" section in the wiki page for Python (programming language). Also, I updated the very outdated screenshot of the platform.

Any further feedback is welcomed Bassanelli (talk) 10:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Austere Systems

Hi @Mean as custard, too busy to prevent the deletion of the page Austere Systems which you recently deleted, i would have rather preferred to improve it and remove advertising materials/content on the page. I would request you please restore the page as a draft so i can work on it and improve it until it is ready to be published in the main space. Thank you Nuel Jr (talk) 13:29, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Mean as custard is not an admin so is not able to do that. As an admin, I would decline - the text there is fundamentally unsalvageable (from the very first sentence: Austere Systems Pvt Ltd, is a software development company providing cutting edge IT services and solutions to startups and enterprises). This has nothing to do with you being busy, it has to do with whether you are trying to describe the country from a neutral perspective or whether you are trying to advertise it to its customers which Wikipedia is not a venue for. You were clearly doing the latter. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Newcomer checking on advert tag

Hi @Mean as custard, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HiPay has an advert tag you added in 2017. It's looking pretty good now. Is there anything I should check before removing your tag? Agnieszka653 (talk) 20:32, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any problem with it now. . .Mean as custard (talk) 22:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking a look. Peace, Agnieszka653 (talk) 15:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removing "resume" tag -- Dean Drako

Hi @Mean as custard, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Drako has your "reads like a resume" tag from May 2024. I've created a more paragraph-based encyclopedic summary -- the prior more bulleted format was due to page been being updated on an ad hoc over a 10-year period. Is there anything else I should do before removing your tag? Mukis (talk) 02:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)mukis[reply]

Thank you for removing the tag @Mean as custard. Mukis (talk) 18:54, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

National Digital Library of India

Dear @Mean as custard,

I recently observed that there has been a significant edit to the National Digital Library of India's page. It might be more accurate to describe this as "vandalism" rather than an "edit." A substantial part of the article has been replaced with outdated information, and numerous inaccuracies have been introduced without proper citations. Readers seek the most current information, which is their right. The privilege to edit does not extend to distorting facts and figures. Please refrain from misusing the editing privileges granted to you. I have reported this matter to the Wikipedia administrators. Dr. Anirban Mukherjee (talk) 05:10, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have again reverted your edit as it contains unacceptably promotional and uncited content. Please tell me in what way you have notified the administrators, so I may justify my action to them if necessary. . .Mean as custard (talk) 16:40, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Health crisis

Hello @Mean as custard, it appears the Health Crisis page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_crisis has been totally replaced and recategorized as something else entirely. I did not attempt an edit as it seems too strange. 163.5.171.53 (talk) 17:43, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the alert. It looks like a rogue edit by an automated bot; I have reverted it to the last good version. . .Mean as custard (talk) 19:24, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to discuss an Edit made to the Grant Union High School (Sacramento California) Wiki page

You recently reverted edits I made to my schools page and id like to know why? Everything added there was all factual information and true and added alot to the page, Grant is 91 years old and has a deep history that is very important to me and would like to know why you deem it "promotional" JesseOrtega (talk) 00:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The changes to the article had no references and read like the school prospectus rather than an encyclopedia article: "has a rich history", "the pride of its students in their community’s achievements", "the school’s commitment to excellence", dedicated to promoting high academic achievement", "instills values such as loyalty, patriotism, and accountability, "mission is to close the achievement gap", "designed to equip students with the skills". . .Mean as custard (talk) 09:29, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reversal of edits to Tata Memorial Centre Wiki page

Hello. I had edited the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Memorial_Centre, which has a lot of old, incomplete and incorrect information, and added multiple factual updates, including the current logo of Tata Memorial (the logo on the page is an old one). I had removed incorrect or irrelevant information such as regarding the Konark Cancer Foundation or the Tata Clinic. However, all my edits have been undone and the page has been restored to the prior status. I can see some of these were done by you. Can you please help me in ensuring that the page remains accurate and uptodate? I am looking forward to working together on this. Ad baheti (talk) 16:31, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Factual edits are fine, but the material you added was over-promotional, e.g. "TMC has been the torchbearer for research in affordable and accessible cancer prevention and care. TMC boasts of having a state-of-the-art Clinical Research Secretariat (CRS) to support clinical research." . . Mean as custard (talk) 20:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Company websites/external links

Why are you removing links to company websites from "external links" sections, such as here, or recent edits here? You removing them is very disruptive when I want to quickly get to the website to get the company logo. I have to google the company site then & check it's the correct one, because you removed the links.

Such links are perfectly fine per WP:ELOFFICIAL. --TheImaCow (talk) 21:44, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I generally only remove external links from the bottom of the article if they already appear in the infobox at the top of the page and the article is intended to be promotional. . .Mean as custard (talk) 10:20, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, at the first link, the company website was no longer linked anywhere, and at the second link, you broke the display of the {{Commons category}} template, which now renders at the bottom of the "References" section, where it dosen't belong.

I support removing promotional content, but a simple link to the main page of the official website, both in the infobox & external link section -especially if the "External" section already contains other links- is not promotional (Except maybe some rare special case)

See the wikipedia page linked above, specifically The official website should be included in infoboxes such as {{infobox company}}, and by convention are listed first in the ==External links== section. --TheImaCow (talk) 12:40, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] t including another ~6,000 redirects

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LoopUp

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Nomination of Solid Waste Association of North America for deletion

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November 2021 backlog drive

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Mission, vision deletions

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UNICOM edits

Thai-Chinese International School - (Removal of Ad tag)

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Perkins&Will

Essbase

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Gelareh Abbasi

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The Broken String Band

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Advertising tag on Brightroll

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Chalmers University of Technology: Advert tag

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About your edit in Bağdat Avenue

Removing "Advert" tag from Pacific Ridge School

External links

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Removing "Advert" tag from INJAZ

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Reversion of edit on Blount Island Command

You recently tagged Jagdish Sheth School of Management as written like an advert

KNIME

Austere Systems

Newcomer checking on advert tag

Removing "resume" tag -- Dean Drako

National Digital Library of India

Health crisis

I would like to discuss an Edit made to the Grant Union High School (Sacramento California) Wiki page

Reversal of edits to Tata Memorial Centre Wiki page