Talk:Dean Baquet
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Dean's title is outdated
[edit]Hello!@BeenAroundAWhileandWhoisjohngalt:I work at The New York Times and wanted to flag that Dean stepped down as executive editor on June 14, 2022. (Joe Kahn is the current executive editor. His page is outdated incorrect as well.) Dean now leads a local investigative Times fellowship that will launch in the coming months. Please see citations for these two facts on Dean.
https:// washingtonpost /media/2022/06/14/joseph-kahn-new-york-times-twitter-democracy/
https:// seattletimes /business/outgoing-times-editor-to-lead-fellowship-for-local-probes/
Thank you! 68.197.248.95(talk) 00:16, 6 July 2022 (UTC) Danielle Rhoades Ha68.197.248.95(talk)00:16, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
inconsistent dates for start of executive editorship
[edit]Date(s) need correcting. I do not have the information to correct it. Apologies if I am using the Talk section incorrectly - it's my first time. Opening section says: "Baquet has been the Executive Editor of The New York Times since June 2, 2011" Career section says: "Baquet was appointed to the Managing Editor position in September 2011,[12] and promoted to Executive Editor on May 14, 2014." Dcmarin1(talk)12:15, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
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Updates toEarly life and educationsection
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Hello! On behalf ofThe New York Times Companyas part of my work at Beutler Ink (see disclosure above), I'd like to submit a few requests to expand and update this article. First, I'd like editors to consider updating a couple details in theEarly life and educationsection. Following is the current markup:
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Baquet was born inNew Orleans, Louisiana,on September 21, 1956.[1]He is the son of well-known New Orleans restaurateurEdward Baquetand a member of a prominent New OrleansCreolefamily.[2][3] Baquet graduated fromSt. Augustine High Schoolin 1974.[4]Baquet studied English atColumbia Universityfrom 1974 to 1978; he dropped out to pursue a career in journalism.[5] References
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I've drafted a new versionhere,which seeks to accomplish the following:
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This diffshows the specific changes I'm proposing for the above reasons. I'd like to think these are non-controversial updates to existing text, and understand volunteer editors will have the final say here. The New York Times Company has verified accuracy. I won't be updating the article directly because of my conflict of interest, so can someone please review these requests and update the article appropriately on my behalf?
@Randy KrynandWhoisjohngalt:I'm putting this request on your radar since you helped atTalk:A. G. Sulzberger.
Thanks for your consideration.Inkian Jason(talk)21:56, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- I believe you should make these edits instead of waiting for somebody to come along and do them. If you made one or two at a time, you could give other editors the opportunity to check the sources and if there is a problem, it could be discussed here. Sincerely, and best wishes, 04:58, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- I am happyInkian Jasondid not make the edits. I checked all the material provided and found them to make the article better while making the section more clear.
DoneWhoisjohngalt(talk)12:32, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- @BeenAroundAWhile:Thanks for the encouragement, but I do not edit the main space apart from very minor and obvious fixes given my conflict of interest. I will be posting another request momentarily if you or User:Whoisjohngalt are willing to review.Inkian Jason(talk)16:02, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for your assistance, Whoisjohngalt.Inkian Jason(talk)14:14, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- I am happyInkian Jasondid not make the edits. I checked all the material provided and found them to make the article better while making the section more clear.
Updates toCareerandNotable stories
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Hello again! I'm back with some additional suggestions for improving this Wikipedia article, specifically theCareerandNotable storiessections. Speaking of which, I propose makingNotable storiesa subsection ofCareersince these claims are related to his work. I've drafted a new versionhere,which accomplishes the following:
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This diffshows the specific changes I'm proposing for the above reasons. The New York Times Company has verified accuracy, and I understand volunteer editors will have the final say here. I won't be updating the article directly because of my COI, so I hope someone can update the article appropriately on my behalf.
@BeenAroundAWhileandWhoisjohngalt:I am bringing this request to your attention given your comments above.
Thanks again,Inkian Jason(talk)16:37, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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Done.Whoisjohngalt(talk)21:55, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Whoisjohngalt, thank you so much for reviewing this request and updating the article.Inkian Jason(talk)14:13, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Updates toPersonal lifesection
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Hello again! I'm back with 2 suggestions for improving this Wikipedia article, specifically thePersonal lifesection.
1. First, I propose changing "They have one son, Ari.[1]"to"They live inGreenwich Villageand have one son, Ari.[2][3]"
2. I also proposeremovingthe following:According to Baquet's colleagues, he prefers to be known as "Creole" as opposed to African-American. His brother, Terry, has stated, "Creole in New Orleans is black. We're descendants ofHaitians.We're black; Creole is not a race. "[4]LA Observeddoes not seem to be an ideal source, and the text describes how the subject identifies via colleagues and his brother, but not the subject himself. I'd argue if Wikipedia is going to make claims about how someone identifies, then the self-identifies should come directly from the subject. As a reminder, I'm submitting requests on behalf ofThe New York Times Company.
References
- ^"The New York Times Executive Editor Dean Baquet named speaker for Columbia College Class Day 2016".Columbia College. 23 March 2016.
- ^Gardner, Eriq (April 9, 2015)."New York Times' Dean Baquet Gives Look at Private Office, Says He Checks Facebook 15 Times a Day".The Hollywood Reporter.RetrievedAugust 3,2020.
Still, the newsman has a hard time switching off, even under pressure from his wife, Dylan, at their Greenwich Village house post-8 p.m.
- ^"The New York Times Executive Editor Dean Baquet named speaker for Columbia College Class Day 2016".Columbia College. 23 March 2016.
- ^Roderick, Kevin, ed. (July 25, 2005)."Giving Baquet Advice".LA Observed.RetrievedSeptember 25,2015.
@Whoisjohngalt:I saw you've expressed feeling a bit exhausted from assisting with this series of requests. I feel obligated to make you aware of this request, given your previous help, but understand if you'd prefer someone else help here. Thanks,Inkian Jason(talk)20:22, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- I don't believe we should list the names of the children, or even mention them at all, since they are neither Notable nor particularly historic.BeenAroundAWhile(talk)04:57, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- @BeenAroundAWhile:I understand. Are you willing to update the sentence as proposed, minus ", Ari"?Inkian Jason(talk)14:56, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you forupdating the article,Whoisjohngalt.Inkian Jason(talk)20:56, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Updates toAwardssection
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Hello again! I'd like to submit a request to update the article'slast section about awards.Currently, the section is written in bullet form and has some unsourced claims. I've worked to convert these bullet points into prose, cite all claims, and add a couple more recent updates such as honorary degrees, Freedom of the Press Award, etc. I've proposed specific text and sourcinghere,and you can viewspecific markup changes here.I think you'll find the claims are neutral and non-contentious, and reviewing should not take long at all. Finally, I'd like to propose a final change to the introduction. Please considering replacing "which exposed corruption on the Chicago City Council"with"for stories exposing corruption on the Chicago City Council"which is more accurate@Whoisjohngalt:Again, I know you've said you prefer others assist with these requests as well, but I want to make you aware of this request and appreciate all your assistance thus far.
Thanks again!Inkian Jason(talk)21:59, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- Do we have a link to the text of the award?BeenAroundAWhile(talk)04:04, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- @BeenAroundAWhile:Which one?Inkian Jason(talk)14:35, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- The Pulitzer. We should get the wording right.BeenAroundAWhile(talk)16:22, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- @BeenAroundAWhile:I thinkthis linkshould help. Thanks for your assistance updating the article.Inkian Jason(talk)16:34, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- @BeenAroundAWhile:Thank you for updating the article's introduction. Would you be willing to update theAwardssection a well, perthis draft?I've added a couple more recent awards (and honorary degrees) and converted the bullets into prose.Inkian Jason(talk)16:50, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
- The Pulitzer. We should get the wording right.BeenAroundAWhile(talk)16:22, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- @BeenAroundAWhile:Which one?Inkian Jason(talk)14:35, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Inkian Jason:The Awards section has been updated.
Done
- @Whoisjohngalt:Thank you, once again, for updating the article on my behalf.@BeenAroundAWhile:If either of you are willing to assist with updating the page for Baquet's colleague, please see outstanding requests atTalk:Meredith Kopit Levien.Thanks again!Inkian Jason(talk)15:22, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Officeholder in infobox
[edit]I tried adding{{Infobox officeholder}}as a module; seethis revision.Loriendrewreverted, noting that theNYTeditoris not a political office
.Looking at the documentation, I don't see any explicit instructions not to use it outside politics, and I've certainly seen it used for things ranging from college presidents to NRA presidents. I think it's useful to have predecessor/term dates/etc. in the infobox, but I acknowledge the "incumbent" language it adds is slightly awkward (it could be manually overridden if we really wanted). Loriendrew, could you expand on your concerns, and could we work out a way to expand the information in the infobox in whatever way ends up being appropriate?{{u|Sdkb}} talk10:47, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- There was a discussion about this, seeTemplate talk:Infobox officeholder/Archive 21#non-political offices?.All the template documentation appears to be about political–type office holders. As al alternative, perhaps aTemplate:S-starttype succession box may be more appropriate.--☾Loriendrew☽☏(ring-ring)00:53, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- Loriendrew,hmm,{{S-start}}seems like it could work. The format/documentation doesn't look easy, but I'll try to figure it out. I think there probably needs to be a bigger discussion about this topic, as the one you linked had only one person expressing an opinion, so it has essentially zero precedent-setting value, and the use of{{Infobox officeholder}}for non-government offices is pretty widespread.{{u|Sdkb}} talk14:53, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
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