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Phonation system[edit]

Eska (2018),Celtic-Germanic Lexis in Light of Laryngeal Realism,Proceedings of the 29th annual UCLA Indo-European conferenceproposes that Proto-Celtic contrasted aspiration rather than voice, primarily on the grounds of (1) this found in the modern Celtic languages and (2) "pre-Grimm's Law" loanwords from Celtic to Germanic show PC *ɸ *t *k *d *g → PG *f *θ *x *t *k, in his view better seen as PC *pʰ/ɸ *tʰ *kʰ *t *k → pre-PG *pʰ *tʰ *kʰ *t *k. Perhaps worth mentioning as a minority view? --Trɔpʏliʊmblah17:13, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The contrast in aspiration in Welsh, for instance, is only in certain environments, e.g. after /s/ /ɡ/ is [k] and /k/ is [kʰ] though <sc> is rare. Even in these circumstances the understood phoneme is /ɡ/ and not /k/, i.e. Welsh contrasts voicing, not aspiration, contrast in aspiration is allophonic. –Dyolf87(talk)14:59, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ablative[edit]

In Proto-Indo-European language, only thematic nominals had a special ending for ablative in singular. Did Proto-Celtic language develop separate ablative endings for all athematic nominals (in all numbers)?--Ed1974LT(talk)18:25, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I desire clarification[edit]

Recently the worddesirative,purportedly a PIE verb form, was changed anonymously todesiderative.This was reverted byRiverbend21as "not constructive".

The worddesirativein this sense has a handful of Web attestations, but far more redirections todesiderative.—Tamfang(talk)00:08, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree the correct term isdesiderative.—Mahāgaja·talk13:30, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Noun type reflexes[edit]

Would it not be more beneficial to show Irish and Welsh (as a minimum) reflexes of the nouns in the noun-stem charts? At least an idea can be gleaned, at a glance, of their developments. –Dyolf87(talk)10:35, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]