Talk:St. Elmo's Fire (film)

"Defining 80s movie?"

The 1985 brat pack movie St. Elmo's Fire was a defining movie of that genre.

Can someone enlighten us as to why?Mike H06:57, Oct 28, 2004 (UTC)

I'm planning on adding a detailed synopsis of this film, and a section on its crtical reviews and its place in popular culture at the time.

The Machine15:38, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Ill omen

I removed the comment about St. Elmo's fire being interpreted as an ill omen by sailors; according toSt. Elmo's Fireit was seen as agoodomen. Let's be consistent here, please.Kelly Martin15:25, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Jules Surname

In no point in the movie is Jules' surname mentioned, how do we know it is Jacoby? I have seen various other surnames for this character on other sites!

The name of the bar

The bar is actually only called "St. Elmo's," not "St. Elmo's Fire" (which would really be overkill, between the title of the movie, the song playing in the background and the allusion to the natural phenomenon in the climactic scene!) Change has been made. -J21

The bar has two names, "St. Elmo's Bar" (lit-up sign) and "Saint Elmo's Bar" (printed on awning). They are both visible during the closing credits. --Cinematical05:55, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Merge fromAlec Newbary

Please merge relevant content, if any, fromAlec NewbaryperWikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alec Newbary.(If there is nothing to merge, just leave it as a redirect.) Thanks.—Quarl^(talk)2007-03-11 09:40Z

Any material that is truly encyclopedic from any articles on the individual characters should be brought into this article, and then the character articles should be deleted or redirected.HokieRNB17:30, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I have added a merge template, which should not be removed without discussion here. The articles on individual characters are not encyclopedic and should be greatly pared down and merged into the existing article here. In addition, the plot summary needs to be vastly edited.HokieRNB22:57, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree that the characters should not have their own articles. --Cinematical05:56, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

YDoneThere really wasn't anything to merge, as the individual articles mostly duplicated the content of the main article. They are now all redirects. --Gyrofrog(talk)19:17, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

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Minor Edits

I'm going to change the order of themes section so it matches the "main character" section. Possibly other slight grammatical corrections - no content changes without notes first--Legomancer(talk) 08:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC) Oh, yeah, I also removed 1 instance of passive voice in like the 3rd section. Again, no changes to content. I'm eyeballing a minor re-write on the first 2 sections, but I'll post here for general approval (or apathy) first.--Legomancer(talk)08:58, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Plot

Where 'da plot man? Typically movie entries tell you a bit more than one sentence about what the plot is.Wjhonson(talk)20:06, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

"coming-of-age film"

def not; its characters are fully adult college grads, lawyers, social workers, married w/children, etc.63.142.146.194(talk)04:57, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Alec's last name

The article renders it asNewbury.The subtitles on my DVD (both English and German) spell itNewberry.Are there any sources forNewbury?--UKoch(talk)12:53, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

I have changed the spelling. --UKoch(talk)15:35, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Rotten Tomato Critics

Why are critic scores from Rotten Tomatoes taken seriously? Several of those "reviews" are just personal websites and it's pretty well established that RT has a very low bar for giving someone a critic account.

If we're going to use that, then there's no reason to not include the audience score unless someone can prove rampant review bombing. For St. Elmo's Fire, the audience score is 67% fresh, with a 3.7/5 average on over 50,000 reviews. That, coupled with the movie's box office success, is far more relevant to how it was received than a handful (45) critic reviews that include quite a few clearly amateur blogger caliber entries.TheJoeGreene(talk)05:12, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

If you have concerns about the use of RT in general, your concerns would be better raised atWT:FILM.If you have concerns about the reviews of this film in particular, can you please more clearly elucidate your concerns with how RT scored this film in particular? Can you point to examples of which critic reviews you feel compromise the RT score?DonIago(talk)06:18, 2 May 2024 (UTC)