Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flemeth

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The result waskeep‎.WP:SNOWkeep; withdrawn by nominator.(non-admin closure)ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ(ᴛ)19:23, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flemeth

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I tried to do BEFORE, but most of them are just passing mentionsthat talk about Flemeth or trivial content. The onlt SIGCOV we got is the scholar "Powerful elderly characters in video games: Flemeth of Dragon Age", but I don't think it is enough to carry the article's notability. 🍕BonelessPizza!🍕 (🔔)23:01, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in thedeletion sortinglists for the following topics:Fictional elementsandVideo games.Shellwood(talk)23:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
KeepIt seems to me that the nomination is discounting secondary source which do not have Flemeth as their main topic, which is not in keeping withWP:SIGCOV.We do have enough reception and analysis by secondary sources to write a full article right now, which is exactly what thenotability guidelinerequires. Granted, some of the coverage works equally well for Flemeth the character as it does for theDragon Agegame, but that then means we would have a question ofWP:PAGEDECIDErather than notability. And I personally think that this topic is better covered here, as it would be too detailed for the mainDragon Agearticle. The mentioned article "Powerful elderly characters in video games: Flemeth of Dragon Age", together with the chapter inCtrl-Alt-Play: Essays on Control in Video Gamingand Stang's "The Broodmother as Monstrous-Feminine—Abject Maternity in Video Games" alone provide enough coverage, I do not find this coverage trivial. Much more so taking the other sources both present in the article and in the searches into account.Daranios(talk)10:12, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To make the notability question even clearer, this academic publication,Kansanperinne 2.0,has a 3-page chapter dedicated to Flemeth (p. 346-349), with much the same discussion as the other academic sources (complex character, unusual traits for an elder female character), plus more on p. 340, 357, 359.Daranios(talk)15:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting find right there. I feel like I'm convinced now that the article could be notable; however I wouldn't withdraw to avoid a super vote outcome. Many thanks. 🍕BonelessPizza!🍕 (🔔)05:28, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If there are no!votes for deletion, redirection, or merging, there would be no supervote concerns. -Cukie Gherkin(talk)06:42, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in thedeletion sortinglists for the following topics:Science fiction and fantasy.Daranios(talk)15:31, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keepper the source analysis provided by Daranios. -Cukie Gherkin(talk)19:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keepper above. Per Cukie Gherkin, there are no supervote concerns here, and nom can safely withdraw without issue.Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999(talk)23:30, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WithdrawI am satisfied with the recent findings. 🍕BonelessPizza!🍕 (🔔)01:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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