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Meta-template

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Because you cannot text templates inside parameters, would it be worthwhile to add some kind of support forTemplate:Book_referencecitations into this template natively? (I copied Book_reference over from Wikipedia before I realized it just wasn't going to work.) Standardization is good, and templates facilitate standards, but could it be more work than it's worth?User:GeoffCapp02:13, 22 July 2005

"the" edition?

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I think it sounds better as "this edition" than "the edition" unless you say "the some-new-parameter edition" which is maybe better yet. -Antireconciler21:47, 14 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

I agree. Although a title allowing for a bit more expansion/flexibility could be "Bibliographic information". What do people think? --Quoth15:54, 3 June 2006 (UTC)Reply
I've gone ahead and changed it to "this edition" in the absence of any further discussion. –Quoth15:46, 27 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Fundamental change to layout of the template

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I noticePathoschildhas significantly changed the visual presentation of the template. I think this is something which should be discussed before it is implemented so I'm going to revert this ask Pathoschild to justify the changes he wants to make here so we can discuss this before changing this very visible (if all policies are followed) template.AllanHainey08:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

As far as I can tell, the only visible change was the removal of the text "of{{PAGENAME}}"and a switch to two columns. Note that I moved the CSS to the main stylesheet, which is likely cached by your browser; try refreshing or waiting a few days for it to clear, and the template should display as before. If that resolves the display problems, I'll revert back to the recoded version. // [admin]Pathoschild(talk/map)15:34, 19 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
It looks likePathoschild's change was an obvious improvement (though it's still ugly an ugly template). I vote for going back to the 2-column version.Nonenmac17:00, 19 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
If there are no objections, I'd like to reinstatemy changesto the template, and right-align it so that it doesn't take so much screen space. // [admin]Pathoschild(talk/map)15:00, 23 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
Sorry, haven't had a chance to respond before now. My main problem with the change was the removal of the green coloured box but I see this has been fixed now so I have no objections to the change.AllanHainey07:11, 24 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
Having this template right-aligned seems to be causing some problems as seen above in the#Examplesand inTalk:The Old New York Frontier.Nonenmac13:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC). -- Found a number of others with similar problems: moved it back to center --Nonenmac14:14, 26 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
Is it just me or is it left aligned in Firefox (1.5.0.4) after this change? –Quoth08:40, 11 June 2006 (UTC)Reply
Just checked in FireFox. It's left-aligned.—Zhaladshar(Talk)13:22, 11 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Clarification

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As given in the example, the "Source" field seems to include information about where the text being used was retrieved from. If this is the case, where should we include information regarding the source work/edition that text itself came from? In the same vein of questioning, does the "Original edition" field take information about the original/first publication of that text, or information about the work/edition the Wikisource text is based off? –Quoth15:54, 3 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

I don't use these templates very much, but I believe people use "Source" as where they got the text (whether it be from a website, a print edition, etc.). "Original edition" is the first known publication of such a work, so it's basically the first time that work came into existence.—Zhaladshar(Talk)16:06, 3 June 2006 (UTC)Reply
Perhaps we need another entry concerning which edition/revision the Wikisource text comes from then? –Quoth16:50, 3 June 2006 (UTC)Reply
I can confirm Zhaladshar's comments on the usage of original edition & source (though of course some users usage may vary from the usual). Quoth - I'd say that the edition/version used is already noted (or linked to ) in source so there isn't any need to add an additional entry. Where all we have is a link & it doesn't disclose the version/edition used then we'd have noting to put in that entry anyway & if edition/version/etc is known, or later becomes known, it can be noted in source.AllanHainey15:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)Reply
While the information might be considered redundantifthe source website includes itandis still functional, would it not be better to keep this information where we can rely on it existing (i.e., the Wikisource servers)? So the current way of noting this is to place the edition information in the "Source" field, and placing the link to the source's website (if applicable) as part of that information (e.g., Joe (1990)."Welcome to Joe's World",Joe's World,pp. 12–20.ISBN 0121049384.)? I think that way's preferable to having another field, actually. –Quoth05:08, 13 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Proposing a New Field

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I think it would be nice to have a field that will either accept an ISBN, a Library of Congress classification, or a British Library identifier (self mark, or shelf mark?). This way if someone decides they would like a print copy of a given text they have found on WS they can do so provided it is still in print, or readily available on the second-hand market. This would have to be kept separate from the "Source" in the event that that the modern reprint and the text-source are not the same. Does anyone have any objections to this idea? —Wikijeff16:01, 12 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Level of progress deprecated?

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I was wondering whether we should be looking to remove the line that talks about level of progress, blank it in the display, and remove it from the preload part. TextQuality is deprecated hence it makes sense to deprecate it here too. —billinghurstsDrewth15:17, 21 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

  • I agree, I've only used these on three pages so far and had to look up what was supposed to go here each time, it's not intuitive and not particularly useful and if has been deprecated then chuck it. I also think though that we probably do need the LoC/British Library number as mentioned above, though not the ISBN probably as that could easily become an erroneous link to a folio or modern edition on Amazon. This can probably be done without changing the current template but could be made easier.--Doug.(talkcontribs)22:00, 31 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

SVG

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Hi! This uses PNGs such asFile:25%.pngthat have a superior SVG replacement. I can't figure out how to replace these, could someone please do that? Thanks,DemonDays64(talk)08:55, 20 October 2020 (UTC)(pleasepingon reply)Reply