Talk:pink
Add topichttp:// merriam-webster /dictionary/pinkhas the flower (and several other meanings) under a different etyomology from the colour, whereas we have them under the same. I don't know myself which is right, but I'd be more inclined to believe M-W.
- Actually, MW doesn't seem to give any etymology for the colour sense so it's not clear whether they think it's distinct or not. But the OED and two dictionaries of etymology in front of me all say it's the same word, and the colour is originally used in the sense of "the colour associated with the flower".Ƿidsiþ05:35, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, the OED has usage for pink, the flower, dating from 1566; and for pink, the colour, derived from the flower, with earliest usage in 1669. The exact timeline of derivation (probably from Dutch) is unclear.Dbfirs07:11, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
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Rfv-sense: Any pink object.
Was commented out, so I have uncommented the sense, and sent it here. --Dan Polansky(talk)14:07, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- Wouldn't this be an RfD? It looks like a fused-head construction, which is part of English grammar. Try to find an English adjective that isn't used in some context without some context-specific omitted noun.
- Clocked outin any event.DCDuringTALK19:21, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- Failed.—Ungoliant(Falai)21:03, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Is any meaning ofpinkused intickle pink?--Backinstadiums(talk)16:15, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
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Rfv-sense:Astab.Not easy to search for, but I was only using my level-6 search-skillzIndian subcontinent(talk)18:48, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
- The 1911Century Dictionaryhas this:
- pink1(pingk),n.[<pink1,v.] 1†. A puncture or small hole made by some sharp slender instrument such as a rapier or dagger; a stab-wound.
- A freebooter’spink,sir, three or four inches deep.
- Middleton,Your Five Gallants, iii. 5.
- A freebooter’spink,sir, three or four inches deep.
- 2. A small hole or eyelet punched in silk or other material with a pinking-iron; a scallop.
- You had rather have
- An ulcer in your body than apink
- More in your clothes.
- B. Jonson,Magnetick Lady, iii. 4.
- pink1(pingk),n.[<pink1,v.] 1†. A puncture or small hole made by some sharp slender instrument such as a rapier or dagger; a stab-wound.
- I assume the dagger at sense 1 means it is obsolete.Your Five Gallantsis a play from about 1607. According to Webster’s 1830 dictionary, the sense “(small) eye” is also obsolete, except in compounds such aspink-eyed( “having small eyes” ).[1]--Lambiam08:46, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Well, that's two cites, if we revise the definition to something more like "a small hole made by puncturing something"; that's a good start; does Grose (
{{rfquotek}}ed in the entry) also have a cite?
H. W. Torrey's 1843Englisch-Latin Lexicon,page 193 mentions this as a verb, "to pink silk with a variety of colors", "to pink with the eye", which we have under etys 3 and 6. TheEDDhas quite a few senses, but not this one.- -sche(discuss)15:29, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Well, that's two cites, if we revise the definition to something more like "a small hole made by puncturing something"; that's a good start; does Grose (
- The 1913OEDhas
- †1. A hole or eyelet punched in a garment for decorative purposes; also, a scalloping done for the same purpose: cf.PINKING[...]
- 1512Acc. Ld. High Treas. ScotIV 215 Item,..for iiil* powdringis and pinkis to the sam goune,.xij s
- 1598Florio,Tagliuzzi,small pinks, cuts or iagges in clothes
- 1599B. Jonson,Cynthia's Rev.v. iv, Is this pinke of equall proportion to this cut?
- 1632—Magn. LadyIII. iv, You had rather have An ulcer in your body, than a pink More in your clothes.
- †2. A stab with a poniard, rapier, etc.Obs.
- 1601WeeverMirr. Mart.C j, At a great word she will her poynard draw, Looke for the pincke if once thou giue the lye.
- 1638FordLady's TrialIII. i, The fellow's a shrewd fellow at a pink.
- b. A shot-wound.
- 1885Pall Mall G.13 May 4/I He is spotted with marks of stabs and revolver 'pinks', and he takes all his wounds quite as matter of course.
- †1. A hole or eyelet punched in a garment for decorative purposes; also, a scalloping done for the same purpose: cf.PINKING[...]
- These should be enough citations for at least one sense.- -sche(discuss)15:40, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- I added all the citations above to the entry, under two subsenses. But perhaps some cites should be tossed as Scots (1512?) or not the right spelling, or the super-sense could be removed and the two subsenses (##) made into regular-level senses (#), or the subsenses could be removed and combined into the main sense...- -sche(discuss)16:37, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
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rfv-sense:To choose; to cull; to pick out.MooreDoor(talk)14:46, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
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