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根据小说、电影、漫画、分镜稿论证传奇红莲是否吹散了风暴

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论据1:小说明确鱼鹰没有在热核脉冲的范围内。
小说红莲表现全文
Below, Ghidorah whipped around toward Godzilla, blasting him with lightning, but the big lizard just took it – absorbed it – and kept coming, pulsing brighter and faster. Again and again, the three-headed dragon struck, but Godzilla, despite his wounds, didn’t even slow down. He collided with Ghidorah like a walking mountain, wrapping him up in his forelimbs, grappling him close, as his dorsal fin pulsed faster and faster, ignoring the dragon’s attacks as he thrashed in his grasp.
The pulses were now so fast they were almost continuous. They sheeted through Ghidorah like a hard wind, ripping his wings and burning them away is if they were made of tissue paper. Ghidorah screamed and blasted Godzilla with all three heads, but then another wave of radiation pulsed out and disintegrated two of the dragon’s heads. Ghidorah slumped to the ground, writhing, as Godzilla stepped on his chest, and as another pulse built within the great lizard, Ghidorah’s remaining head shrieked.
Mark shielded Madison with his body and tried not to look, desperately hoping they were out of range.
He saw through his closed eyelids the flash that engulfed what remained of Boston. He held Maddie tighter, as the Osprey suddenly jumped through the air. The blood drained from his head, and then they were in free fall.
But only for a moment; the Osprey slapped onto a thermal; her wings caught, and they were flying again. A little shakily, maybe, but well enough.
When Mark opened his eyes, he saw a mushroom cloud lifting from Boston. The Osprey started a wide turn around the city as the cloud continued to lift, and it gradually began clearing below.
Through the smoke, downtown Boston was a wasteland of blackened ruins, burning streets, twisted steel beams. He was reminded of the ruins of the city beneath the sea. In a few thousand years, would there be anyone left to wonder what had happened to the civilization he had been born into?
在下面,基多拉向哥斯拉转过身来,用闪电攻击他,但大蜥蜴吸收了它,并继续前进,脉动越来越亮,越来越快。一次又一次,三头龙袭击,但哥斯拉,尽管受了伤,甚至没有放慢速度。他像一座行走的山一样与基多拉相撞,用前肢包裹他,紧紧抓住他,他的背鳍脉动得越来越快,无视龙在他的掌握中挣扎的攻击,他的背鳍脉动得越快。
脉冲现在变得如此之快,几乎是连续的。它们像一阵强风一样穿过 基多拉,撕裂了他的翅膀,如果他的翅膀是纸做的,那么它们就会被烧掉。基多拉 尖叫着用三个头撞击 哥斯拉,但随后又有一波辐射脉冲出来,使巨龙的两个头解体。基多拉 瘫倒在地,挣扎着,哥斯拉 踩在他的胸口上,当另一波脉冲在巨蜥体内形成时,基多拉 剩下的头尖叫起来。
马克用身体掩护麦迪逊,尽量不看,拼命希望他们不在波及范围之内。
他透过闭着的眼皮,看到了吞没了波士顿残余部分的闪光。他紧紧地抱着麦迪,“鱼鹰”突然跃入空中。他的头一阵发晕,然后他们就在自由落体了。
但只是一瞬间;鱼鹰战机被热气流拍打了一下;它的翅膀卡住了,它们又飞起来了。也许有点摇晃,但还好。
当马克睁开眼睛时,他看到一朵蘑菇云从波士顿升起。随着云层的继续上升,鱼鹰式飞机开始在城市周围进行大半径转弯,下方逐渐变得晴朗。
穿过烟雾,波士顿市中心是一片焦黑的废墟、燃烧的街道和扭曲的钢梁,这让他想起了海底城市的废墟,几千年后,是否还有人会想知道他所出生的文明发生了什么?


IP属地:广东1楼2024-06-05 00:58回复
    论据2:其实和论据1相辅相成,从电影画面来看依然没直接触及鱼鹰,这鱼鹰甚至还舱门大开,按传红的温度只凭一点点热浪就能蒸发里面的人不是吗?从这个结果来看,热核脉冲的最大范围距离鱼鹰还是很远的。



    IP属地:广东2楼2024-06-05 01:15
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      辅助论证2:按照电影时长从马克和麦迪逊坐着鱼鹰和艾玛分别,截止至红莲发起第三个热核脉冲的时间来看,鱼鹰飞行了148秒。这也合情合理,明明基多拉在南极的时候动动身子掀起来的冰块就能砸死不少人了,不可能被一个人类拖太长的时间。
      最后直接按鱼鹰最快的飞行速度570km/h来算,一共飞出了23.3km。热核脉冲既然没波及到鱼鹰,那能推导出热核脉冲的范围是在23km之内的。这个数据做个参考就可以了,只能说是差不多这个距离,可能更近也可能更远。



      IP属地:广东3楼2024-06-05 01:16
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        不要觉得这个范围太小了,因为两部官方小说都没表明热核脉冲的范围遍及整个波士顿
        g2小说:将波士顿市中心化为废墟
        Through the smoke, downtown Boston was a wasteland of blackened ruins, burning streets, twisted steel beams. He was reminded of the ruins of the city beneath the sea. In a few thousand years, would there be anyone left to wonder what had happened to the civilization he had been born into?
        穿过烟雾,波士顿市中心是一片焦黑的废墟、燃烧的街道和扭曲的钢梁,这让他想起了海底城市的废墟,几千年后,是否还有人会想知道他所出生的文明发生了什么?
        gxk小说:融化半个波士顿
        Hampton nodded, hoping this wasn’t going to be a repeat of the Boston incident, when Godzilla had melted half the city.
        汉普顿点了点头,希望这不会是波士顿事件的重演,当时哥斯拉融化了半个城市。


        IP属地:广东4楼2024-06-05 01:16
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          上述电影画面和小说内容基本都没显示出“风暴被热核脉冲吹散”的这一信息。
          而论证热核脉冲范围触及不到鱼鹰是因为你真能吹散风暴的话,为什么没吹飞鱼鹰?


          IP属地:广东5楼2024-06-05 01:16
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            论据3:在g2的电影和小说之后,除了漫画《金刚:王国》其他地方其实都没提到过基多拉风暴的情况。
            虽然《金刚:王国》详细提及了风暴之后的情况,可依然没提到吹散风暴或者类似”风暴被削弱“的字眼,字面意思就是基多拉死后留给世间的遗赠。


            IP属地:广东6楼2024-06-05 01:17
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              所以,小说、电影、漫画多方面都找不出实际证据。那还有什么能佐证传奇红莲真的有吹散过风暴这档事呢?就只能看分镜稿了

              但从分镜稿来看,依然看不出任何吹飞风暴的信息,甚至第二张图的第一个个分镜都是雨景。第三个分镜甚至还有哥斯拉身上冒蒸汽的细节,说明刚结束红莲后体温还没降下去,蒸发了体表的雨珠。


              IP属地:广东7楼2024-06-05 01:18
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                总结,根据所有的官方资料根本就得不出红莲吹散风暴的证据,埼玉和饿狼一开始打出星空图的时候也是议论纷纷,但为什么现在大家又全认了?因为星空图他至少有个画面啊,而吹散风暴有个啥?至少像下图那样来个远景向我们展示一下风暴被吹散了的特写
                或者小说提一句我们也是能认的,可他就是没有。


                IP属地:广东8楼2024-06-05 01:19
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                  其实最开始也没人注意到风暴这一点,那么吹散风暴最早的出处是在哪呢?自然是大名鼎鼎的vb了。
                  我最早看的时候还说是大岛级,现在不知道是谁改的又成爆国级了。
                  然后vb总喜欢用扣些平时不在讨论范围内的内容进行计算借此跨大把量级抬高角色。就像平成魔斯拉,超全集设定明确是2马赫,可vb就是能从这几个没有参照物的镜头中算出魔斯拉的速度有222马赫,所以巴特拉也有。
                  不是,没有参照物你知道距离吗?没距离也能算出速度?


                  结尾的飞行镜头就这两个,我是看不出有什么参照物能看出距离进行计算的。


                  IP属地:广东9楼2024-06-05 01:20
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                    所以,跟违背设定无端扯出魔斯拉222马赫一样,这个吹散风暴同样是vb无端扯出来的。
                    最扯的就是没有吹散风暴的画面,不是,哥们。平成魔斯拉那个虽然没参照物看不出距离,但至少还有个画面吧?
                    吹飞风暴这个,连个画面都没有,那你怎么计算?不靠电影画面,纯靠自己的想象来进行计算是吧?难怪无视了电影画面中的鱼鹰。


                    IP属地:广东10楼2024-06-05 01:21
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